theAnAcondA742

That is pretty dirty, I'm not going to lie.

Posted by theAnAcondA742 on Wed Oct 18, 2006 5:20 pm.

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CombatChaz

He's not going for the eyes - he is just sliding down the face. The eyes close as a reaction. I don't think that it is that dirty...but that might just be me!

Posted by CombatChaz on Wed Oct 18, 2006 5:27 pm.

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smash

Most people will instinctively close their eyes for the FEAR that something might happen. You don't actually poke or touch their eyes really. You just let your fingers brush against it and out of instinct.

Posted by smash on Wed Oct 18, 2006 10:41 pm.

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smash

*They close their eyes!

Posted by smash on Thu Oct 19, 2006 12:29 am.

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L-Train

It's only dirty if you follow up this with a groin kick instead of a takedown..... ;-)

Posted by L-Train on Thu Oct 19, 2006 5:54 pm.

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Enigmachrysalis

This technique isn't dirty. It is being taught to wrestling teams all around the world as you read this. It is a basic way to set up the take down. Sometimes you do not even have to "rake" the eyes. I think that word is what is causing the confusion. You can just put your hand in their face or touch their forehead. As long as the guy blinks, you have a moment to shoot!

Posted by Enigmachrysalis on Fri Oct 20, 2006 6:16 pm.

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Sniper9

It's pretty risky. I really don't want to put my fingers near anybody's eyes unless it's in a closed fist.

Posted by Sniper9 on Fri Oct 20, 2006 8:46 pm.

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toughmanchamp

Wn if you can lose if you must,but cheat at all times.Er um win at any cost.Um I mean...lol

Posted by toughmanchamp on Wed Nov 01, 2006 9:08 pm.

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Spaz

I dont see anything dirty about it. If you can rake and push your opponents face back while clinching, I dont see the difference. What if it was called a "Face Wipe" instead of "Face Rake", wouldnt sound so "dirty"

Posted by Spaz on Fri Nov 03, 2006 4:48 pm.

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roac2138

i used this in wrestling in high school, since you cant hit them, you can still put your hands up to their eyes, or even push the forehead deos the same thing. Now i use it in pankration tournaments.

Posted by roac2138 on Fri Nov 03, 2006 11:29 pm.

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scaryjello

This is one of the few steups that, in my opinion, benefeits from a light touch. Many fighters and grapplers are used to hard forces against their body and head, however a light touch sliding down their face can cause them to take a mental step back and go "What the heck?" It can freeze them for the split second that you need to shoot in and take them where you want to.

Posted by scaryjello on Mon Nov 06, 2006 1:46 am.

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submission brawler

it is dirty, I LIKE IT..LOL

Posted by submission brawler on Sun Dec 03, 2006 3:31 pm.

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CanadianRush

Seems pretty dirty. I wouldn't want to mess up and get them in the eyes.

Posted by CanadianRush on Wed Dec 20, 2006 5:30 pm.

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FireCat-75

this is the setup for old school wrestling, we did it all the time. It isn't dirty, if your a wrestler you know whats coming next. Someone rakes my face and my legs shoot back and my forarms start looking for shoulders. (only in a fight ;-) )

Posted by FireCat-75 on Tue Jan 30, 2007 6:34 am.

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twb

great tech. man can't see he can't fight. Karate Kid rule 1. Not dirty at all.

Posted by twb on Tue Jan 30, 2007 10:33 pm.

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martial_warrior

you have to be quick with your shoot...right when your fingers are over his eyes you should already be reaching for his legs

Posted by martial_warrior on Sun Feb 18, 2007 8:49 pm.

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donkey1

if you poke the eyes it is dirty, but if you just make them think you are it is fair.

Posted by donkey1 on Mon Feb 19, 2007 9:15 pm.

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amazingjames311

this setup is old. my dad taught me this when i was 5. i personally like to "poke" the forehead a bit above the bridge of the nose. same result but is a bit quicker.

Posted by amazingjames311 on Sat Mar 03, 2007 10:13 am.

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Assassin Al

I'm not sure if there are any folkstyle wrestlers here, but they made this illegal recently. Now, you can only place the fingers on the forehead (using the palm to block vision) but not 'rake' downwards.

In any case, this still is a good set-up.

Posted by Assassin Al on Mon Mar 26, 2007 11:32 pm.

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