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5 Myths about Leglocks in BJJ23 of December 2011 

Leglocks, or “leg locks” as they are sometimes called, represent 50% of the joint attacks you can possibly do.  They are increasingly important at the higher levels of BJJ and grappling competition.  In fact, at the ADCC Submission Wrestling World Championships in 2011, there were more leglocks than ALL other submissions combined!

Nevertheless, they are seldom practiced with as much regularity as armlocks or chokes.  Rather, they are frequently absent from entire BJJ curriculums across the world.  Why?   The following is a list of five reasons these incredibly effective attacks are feared rather than utilized.

1.  Leglocks are more dangerous than upper body submissions.
This myth has the most merit IF the leg attacks are practiced in an environment where there is little to no supervision. If you are reading this and you are practicing with your buddies in your garage, you really might want to consider a “no leglocks” rule.  Otherwise, if you’re at a gym where you trust your training partners and your instructor, leglocks can be a safe (and fun) part of your training.  That said, you have to abide by the rules set at your gym.  If your gym doesn’t allow certain attacks below a certain belt level, you absolutely must follow this rule in the interest of safety.  You have to trust your instructor and the rules he or she has set!
With proper education as to what is being damaged by each submission, there is no reason leg locks can’t be practiced with regularity.  This is a giant caveat, though- everyone believes they understand when to tap from a Kimura, for example, but if you watch Mir vs Nogueira part 2, the area is a little bit more gray.  The same is true of a heel hook, kneebar, or toe hold!  With very little force, you can break large joints in the body and even fracture bones in special circumstances.  You can even shred ligaments, which can take far longer to heal than damage from broken bones.  This is true of all joint locking submissions!

2.  Leglocks are low percentage techniques, and you will give up your position by going for them.
This is perhaps the most egregious myth about leglocks.  First, there is a right and a wrong time to attempt a leglock.  The wrong time is when you have a dominant position, and going for the leglock means you are likely to give up the dominant position if you miss it.  This “catch” philosophy need not permeate your grappling experience at all.  On the other hand, unorthodox attacks from dominant position may catch your opponent off guard.  That said, as a general rule, you are always going to play “position before submission” when you’re rolling, and this includes leg attacks!
Second, there is a right and a wrong way to attempt leg locks.   I won’t spend any more time talking about the wrong way, but the right way involves using the leg attack to sweep from the bottom, or to pass the guard when your opponent defends the leglock, or to keep your own guard from being passed.   In short, leglocks should be used toimprove your position, not the other way around.

3.  They’re illegal in competition, so why train them?
This is the easiest myth to debunk.  One look at US Grappling’s very clear rules and you can immediately see that some leglocks are allowed in all adult divisions (straight ankle locks for everybody, and kneebars for all no-gi competitors).  Toe holds, calf slicers, and heel hooks (among others) are much more restricted, only allowed in a certain few divisions.
Further, competition isn’t everything.  There are three aspects of grappling that exist beyond just rolling at the gym, and only one of them is sport BJJ or grappling competition.  MMA is another, and most leglocks are typically allowed in MMA fights (although this is well worth investigating, as each state has its own set of rules, some different from amateur to pro!).  The third is self defense, and there are exactly zero techniques that aren’t allowed when you’re defending your life!  May as well know the most devastating way to end a fight.

4.  Leglocks should only be taught at purple belt and above.
If a student is planning to compete at all before purple belt, this is a terrible idea.  Nearly all tournaments allow some leglocks before purple belt.  Getting a general idea of the submissions that are below the waist is a very good idea, even if you don’t plan to use them yourself when you compete.  They could well be used against you, and you had better (at least) know how to tap!
Further, inadvertent leglocks actually do come up fairly frequently at the gym.  If you know you’re putting your training partner in danger, you are far less likely to injure him or her!

5.  They are far too complicated to execute properly.
This is another dangerous, misleading myth, often propagated by those who don’t understand leglocks well enough to teach them to their students.  There are a few leglocks that are, indeed, complicated.  There are some, however, that are disgustingly simple to execute.
If anything complicated was shunned, we’d never have such an amazing evolution within our sport!  Just watch any highlight video, leglock based or otherwise, and you’ll see an incredible array of increasingly complicated techniques that challenge the mind.  Without more complicated stuff, jiu jitsu suddenly gets pretty boring.

The bottom line:  educate yourself!  Don’t live in the dark with regard to leg attacks.  Instead, let knowledge overcome fear, and you can add these amazing attacks into your game, often beating an otherwise more technical opponent.

 

source: 5 Myths about Leglocks in BJJ

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Leglocks are a must for everybody! I never even thought about them until I rolled with a guy who was really into Catch Wrestling and caught me with them constantly. Btw this site has improved my leglock game a LOT.

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Got one word for you , Reilly 

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Improve your leg lock game just get Reillys and Chris' DVDs.

Those right can open a whole world of whoop ass.

I know Because when I get on the mat everyone runs...lol

 

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I am the "leg lock" guy at my gym and I concur with this "top 5" 100%.  I have never harmed anyone with a leg lock and become a force since adding them to my game. In fact a kneebar was the first sub I caught my instructor with!


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LegLocks are my favorite submissions. At our gym, I get asked about them a couple times a week. If done right, so much fun.

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I tend to be the leg lock guy at my gym in the same way many of you are saying and I have to say, I don't agree with a couple of these. Number 1 has just been flat out wrong in my experience.  Over the 13 years I've been grappling I've seen more people injured from heel hooks than any other submission by a large margin.  It's not even close.  As far the losing position thing goes, that one I'm skeptical about. I know with the way a few of the wizards are throwing them it's definitely possible to play a very solid leg lock positional game but I think for the majority of players they really are going to be a low percentage move that tends to leave the lock-er susceptible to harsh attacks from the lock-ee.  Especially when you're talking about MMA training as the article stipulates you're looking at a whole different aspect of problem.  Whenever I'm at the gym (MMA gym mostly populated by ex-wrestlers) when it comes to rolling, sure I'll tap people regularly with all kinds of lower body submissions, but you add in some gloves and we start training full shots and it's a lot harder to torque that knee or ankle with someone stacked and throwing leather at your head.  Completely agreed on the training it at low levels thing though, I guess I've been lucky because I didn't even know that was an issue.

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I've injured three training partners while sparring in all of my years of grappling. Two have been from straight ankle locks and one from a toe hold. The ankle locks were applied with steady increasing pressure and the pop came before the discomfort. the toe hold injury came from being swept   while standing in open guard (I fell while while applying the lock). My anecdotal experience is that leg locks are more dangerous than upper body locks.

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I dont know about you guys but i remember in the 90's when i would go to a bjj school and they would get mad at me for doing them and i would ask why and they would say they were no good. When i train any leg/foot locks i just hold them in the postion and let them try to escape. I know i can finish it but i think it makes my partners training improve and mine.

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I love leg locks but by no means am I a pro but I get scared rolling with guys with huge egos.  I'll snatch up a picture perfect toe hold and they just will not tap.  I've popped two feet (not ankles but the middle of the foot) with these guys before.  Now I just let them go and lose position. 

 

Also I train for with the goal of competing in MMA.  Let me state again I love leg locks and I practice them.  However I'm not going for a leg lock from a top position unless I'm losing bad on the judges cards and it's all I got.  My personal game plan is to only go for subs that if failed I will still maintain top position, various chokes. Again this is if I'm fighting. 

 

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Great read!  Gotta love leg locks:)

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Injuries from leg attacks usually occur when there is an ego involved- either the one caught doesnt want to tap or the catcher wants to get the tap more than they want to protect their training partner.

Our gym teaches leg attacks early on due to the fact that we are an MMA gym and in the KY area, some leg attacks are legal in amateur competition. However, we have a "CATCH AND RELEASE" rule at our gym with EVERY hold, especially heel hooks/toe holds. No matter how deep I have a hook the cranking STOPS once the guy is caught and the leg is secure. If my partner wants to practice escaping or tap then its up to them at that point. This is the time when I usually switch to a straight ankle instead of pursuing the heel hook OR call the match myself if Im with a new guy.

Also, during a sparring session if you hear someone on the sideline scream out 'TAP', everyone STOPS. This way if a veteran guy notices a dangerous position, say between two new guys, the action can be stopped.

And of course 'SLOW-STEADY PRESSURE' is always taught from the jump.

OH and good read, thanks Chaz.

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