Do you think that Dave Batista will be like Lesnar or like Slice???
http://www.fightopinion.com/2010/08/11/dave-batista-legitimize/?utm_sour...
Dave Batista: “I would like to legitimize myself as a martial artist”
By Zach Arnold | August 11, 2010
I’m using that spelling of his last name because that’s how it is on on the video interview. There’s a lot of wrestler-speak in this video, but there’s also occasional grains of truth about his motives.
If there are any punctuation issues, the reason is because I had to edit out all the ‘you knows’ and commas — 43 you knows in a 7 minute interview.
Transcript available in full-page view.
DANNY ACOSTA: “Bringing in a lot of recognition into Mixed Martial Arts. What was your decision initially to jump in? Why Mixed Martial Arts?”
DAVE BATISTA: “It wasn’t like just a sporadic thing, man, I’ve been thinking about it for a long time. Really just because I was a fan, a real huge fan and, kind of following along the footsteps of Brock (Lesnar) and Bobby Lashley and it was just something that I loved and something, like before I’m too old do it I’d love to jump in and give it a try. I’ve been a martial artist for a long time, it’s in different form of martial arts, I mean I’ve been practicing Kali for years. Did Muay Thai for conditioning and stuff and just, then started working on my ground game and that’s one of the things that led me is that I REALLY, REALLY want to have a strong ground game so I came to Cesar (Gracie) and I think he’s going to lead me to the promise land. (laughing)”
DANNY ACOSTA: “What is the promise land for you? What goals would you like to accomplish in Mixed Martial Arts?”
DAVE BATISTA: “Really, like I never thought, going for a championship or anything. I just really want to make that cross-over. I want to be a legitimate fighter. Didn’t like the direction that professional wrestling was going in and before, like I said, before I’m too old I would just like to legitimize myself as a martial artist, as a Mixed Martial Artists and get in and compete with true, legitimate fighters, so that’s really I just want to make the cross-over. I want to be successful at it and, this is not like a joke to me. It’s something I take real seriously and I’m going to train here I think with the best training in the world. I mean it’s obvious, there’s world class fighters here, world class grapplers, so I think this is the place to be, man. I think I’m going to get to where I want to be through Cesar.”
DANNY ACOSTA: “What do you feel will be your biggest asset coming into a cage?”
DAVE BATISTA: “I think a lot of people underestimate, my strength and quickness I mean for a guy my size I’m pretty fast, I’m pretty good with my hands, and I’m strong and agile I think for a big guy. So I think, a lot of people are going to underestimate that and I am real durable, I think I’ve proven that over the years with WWE. I think any professional wrestler is, if nothing else, DURABLE, and I think Brock has proved that, Bobby has proved that, and other fighters like Josh Barnett, who’s a professional wrestler as well. I think a lot more fighters than you realize are also professional wrestlers and there’s just if there’s one requirement in professional wrestling it’s durability and I’m as durable as they come.”
(He’s an amazing actor to say with a straight face that he’s durable and not laugh while saying it.)
DANNY ACOSTA: “With that said, Mixed Martial Arts is very tough on your body. but you’re not on the road 300 days a year and do you feel that this is actually better for you to be in fighting?”
DAVE BATISTA: “Yeah, absolutely, because I mean the training part is fun, I’ve always loved to train. I’m a physical guy, LOVE to train, I could be doing it for hours and not get tired of it. The traveling and the wear-and-tear that comes along with professional wrestling is what takes a toll on you. I always tell people the hardest thing about professional wrestling is the traveling, it just beats you up, man, and just dealing with traveling coast-to-coast and jetlag and just sitting like this cramped up in tight spaces and just lack of sleep, lack of good food. If I can center myself for one place, for 8-10 weeks and this is all I have to do and it’s a regimented thing, man that’s a dream come true for me.”
DANNY ACOSTA: “Will you be moving out here near this camp to Cesar Gracie’s school?”
DAVE BATISTA: “I will. When it comes down to it, when we get the fight deal signed and it’s going to be, I have 10 weeks to go, 8-10 weeks to go. I’ll plant myself here in Northern California which is easy for me, I’ve lived here for years, my Mom lives in San Francisco so I love it out here, man, so this is cake, this really just works out for me in every way you think about.”
DANNY ACOSTA: “And how are the negotiations going with Strikeforce? When do you foresee yourself getting in and actually fighting?”
DAVE BATISTA: “Early 2011. Yeah. negotiations are going good. It’s just that, we started talking, I had a very small window of opportunity between leaving wrestling and being freed up from that and going to other projects. I have TV projects and movie projects, one in particular that’s a really big priority for me because it’s a big-budget film, it’s really a cool project and it’s just, my window of opportunity closed man so now we’re looking at early 2011.”
DANNY ACOSTA: “Have you reached out to Josh Barnett or Bobby Lashley or Brock Lesnar, guys who have been in the pro-wrestling business and have made the transition and been successful?”
DAVE BATISTA: “All of them, yeah. I’ve talked to Bobby a little bit about. I’ve actually not talked to Brock since he left our company and I’ve talked to Josh Barnett as well. I’m actually going to follow up, I’ll be in L.A. a lot so I’ll follow up with Josh Barnett a lot and I like him, he’s a good dude, he’s a good fighter. He’s a little bit cuckoo which I REALLY LOVE. He’s my type of dude so I’ll definitely reach out to him more.”
DANNY ACOSTA: “You’ve been seen with Manny Pacquiao. Have you worked at all in The Wildcard boxing gym on your stand-up skills?”
DAVE BATISTA: “I have not, I’ve not been over there. Michael Moorer is a good buddy of mine and he left, he was actually really the way that this all came about to meeting up with Manny and everything but I’m going to reach out to him again and maybe work a little stand-up down there but I’m really, really going to focus on my ground game while I’m doing there, probably work with Rener Gracie if I can I’ll reach out to him. We’ve talked about it before and of course he’s related to Cesar so I’m probably going to go down and work with him a lot.”
DANNY ACOSTA: “How much is your Filipino heritage and the fighting pride thing factoring in to you jumping in and wanting to be a martial artist?”
DAVE BATISTA: “Filipinos by nature are fighters. I believe that 100% so it has a lot to do with it. we are just ,we’re durable, we’re hungry, we’re aggressive people, we’re just fighters. We Filipinos have nothing, man, they really can’t get anything unless you fight for it, you work hard for it, I have that, it was instilled in me through my grandfather. I believe that. And I’ve always said that every time I go to the Philippines, I’ve had to work hard for everything, nothing was ever handed to me, I’ve worked for it. It’s just something in my blood, man, I’m a hard worker.”
DANNY ACOSTA: “What would you say to skeptics who think Dave Batista doesn’t belong in Mixed Martial Arts?”
DAVE BATISTA: “… that’s one of the things that I can respect their opinion, that’s their opinion but I don’t ask, I’ve never asked for anything handed to me. give me a chance to earn their respect and I think once I get in there and they see that I’m a fighter and they see that I’ve actually put the training in, I’m not some guy that’s just going to rely on my celebrity status and go in the cage and hope to make a lot of money (and) I’m legitimate. I’m a fighter and I want to learn how to be a professional fighter and I’m here to train, here to work my ass off. I’m not coming in here like a celebrity, I’m coming here and training with everybody else, man, and I’m coming here like a student, I’m a student. just lay back and I don’t mind earning people’s respect, I don’t expect to have it handed to me.”
DANNY ACOSTA: “Will Dave Batista still be The Animal inside of a Mixed Martial Arts cage?”
DAVE BATISTA: “Um… I’m always going to be The Animal. (laughs) It’s the only person I know how to be. It’s just, I’m really, I’m… when it comes to stuff like that I’m real laid back, man, I’m actually a really passive person but when it comes to stuff like that and being competitive and I’m an aggressive dude, I’m very intense, I’m an aggressive person and that’s who I’ll really be no matter what I do. I’ll be that person in the movies, I’ll be that person in the professional wrestling ring, I’ll be that person in the cage. I’ll be that person on the street, that’s always going to be inside of me because that’s the way I was raised, that’s what’s in my blood, and that’s just a part of who I am.”
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"The nation that draws too great a distinction between its scholars and warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting done by fools."
--Unknown
I agree, pro wrestlers take a sh*t load of abuse and are pretty tough dudes. I think the question really is why do they think this translates over to MMA if they don't have a real background beforehand.
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"The nation that draws too great a distinction between its scholars and warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting done by fools."
--Unknown
I think you really just need to take a look at the first round of the Lesnar/Carwin fight to get your answer about whether or not the pro wrestling durability translates.

24 wins! Dominic Cruz better watch out!
As someone who has done BOTH .. I took way more repetitive injury and stayed hurt MORE from pro-wrestling than any kind of shoot anything.. BUT.. "durable" is NOT how I would describe Dave.. he has been hurt for MOST of his career.. legitimate injuries.. constantly wrestling injured is just part of it.. but when you start out with torn shoulders and torn biceps, etc... he has stayed injured.. much more than any other "big man" in wrestling I can remember..
I know that when Dave did his initial training with guys for WWE's developmental promotion OVW (Ohio Valley Wrestling).. he STAYED hurt.. STAYED sick.. hell, he STAYED cold even during the warm months, he'd be in the locker rooms complaining about being chilly.. I've long thought he was simply too fragile for wrestling and should've stuck with the body building.. I usually will stick up for the boys.. but Dave don't got it.. not to go up against the kind of competition he thinks he could hang with.. he couldn't hang with the guys he thought he desrved to be ranked with in pro-wrestling and he won't be able to hang in the shoots either... not quality competition.. maybe give him someone he can squash and get over on.
Pro wrestling has a couple of qualities that translate, no one shoudl take that away. They are athletes, the lift weights, used to being in front of crowds and you have to be pretty tough to take the abuse they take in that ring.
I look at them like football players that want to cross over. Yes, some of the skills will translate. But you have to be more than an athlete and tough. Dave's training will be the ultimate test.

mmmm i think i might lean more towards Jose Conseco, butI'll give him the benefit of the doubt.
"Boards don't hit back"-Bruce Lee (Enter the Dragon circa 1973)
Thanks for some pretty insightful comments. Clearly with the amount of shows pro wrestlers do, there is little time to actually heal from injury.
@Bruceleeroy, I think you are exactly right. With any pro athlete there are some skills that can translate.
It just makes me wonder why people think it's so much easier to fight. You would think with just the Jordan example that they would understand that great skill in one doesn't always translate to another. At least with going from basket ball to baseball, if you do bad, what's the worst...you strike out. But with MMA, do you really want to get beat on?
Maybe Lance Armstrong will cross over next. That would be sweet!
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"The nation that draws too great a distinction between its scholars and warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting done by fools."
--Unknown
Usually guys on top will wokr some 300 plus days a year.. which leaves little time off for family and/or healing.. but that's all part of it and you have to know that going in.. like with any of this.. it ain't really "if" you're gonna get hurt.. its "when" and how you're gonna handle it.. physically and psychologically.. and when you are hurt, you don't want to say anything for fear they'll send you home and then put a new guy in your spot and then you're forgotten about OR punished for saying anything about an injury.. they send you home and starve you out till you're ready to come back and usually its way too soon when you do come back.. but again that is all part of that industry and part of being an independent contractor..
what I'm referring to is Dave's make up physically.. he is prone to injuries in a BIG way.. some physiques, no matter how conditioned or how heavily muscled; are simply not a durable as others and Dave has exhibited throughout the last decade or more that for a really big guy, he's very fragile and prone to muscle tears and joint problems.
From a pro-wrestling standpoint he was/is horrible.. technically he's a freakin' joke.. NO wrestling skills whatsoever.. problem is.. with his physique.. they could've have NEVER put in the first three matches with light heavyweights, etc.. he had to be booked in matches with other big guys OR be the giant monster crushing everyone.. problem with that is that his in ring work was abosolute crap.. all wrapper with no quality in the filling.
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"(He’s an amazing actor to say with a straight face that he’s durable and not laugh while saying it.)"
I dont get that statement. Pro Wrestlers do take tons of punishment physically. More so than the average MMA fighter, as most fighters try to train safely, and usually dont fight more than once every 4 -6 weeks as an ammy, and less often as pro's.
Wrestlers get slammed around night after night for weeks at a time, so I think he's making an honest statement.
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