The epsecutioner/executioner
[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmYmpbwiC34&feature=related[/video]
A really cool 10th planet move demonstarted by Brandon Quick (1oth Planet DFW) that i enjoyed and hope you guys will too.
Ive watched all this guys stuff on youtube and i really love it. especially the brabo/darce stuff.
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I think that someone is getting neck cranked tonight!!!!!
Wow. It looks like a good option because I could finish without letting go of head and arm control, but does the tap come from pressure on his spine from having his head pulled back, or is it actually a tight choke?
I'm not a black belt, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
thanks for the vid!


天下無難事,只怕有心人
Wow. It looks like a good option because I could finish without letting go of head and arm control, but does the tap come from pressure on his spine from having his head pulled back, or is it actually a tight choke?
good question, i would like to no as well. it looks like both, but mostly a crank. i want to do sub, but there's no cranks in tournaments below brown belts or below advance divisions.


天下無難事,只怕有心人
I can't help but notice that the style that advocates the abolition of the gi seems to have replaced one crutch w/ another.
This may not be wearing gi pants a la Eddie bravo, but he has a long sleeve RG, shorts, Aoki pants, and ankle sleeves. THere may be no grips in terms of what the other guy might take hold of for set-ups, but that is more secure body grip that any gi would provide, especially once it had been pulled open in a match.
It's not a dig on the style b/c I still think it works wonders, but I like it b/c it works those wonders even if you are not wearing a grappling wetsuit.
Grandmaster Red Belt in P(C)JJ
Interesting. I will have to play with this one. The North-South choke is one of my favorites, but on some people it can be very hard to finsih. This looks like it could be a good option. I too want to know if it is a true choke or if it would be considered a neck crank. Guess I will have to ask my training partners tomorrow.
Thanks for posting the video.
Dave
Alive MMA/Brazilian Top Team
Portland, OR
so next time someone asks you to pop their back for them...... :)
The executioner is a combination choke and spinal cranck at the same time. Brandon is an excellent teacher he breaks things down really well and is always available for help.
As far as the no gi wet suit, brandon is wearing that on because he has messed up that leg. He trains 5 days a week with us and twice on mondays and thursday. so his body has taken a beaten.
Check out he new youtube of the peruvian necktie it is nice.
By "messed up", do you mean some type of knee/ligament injury, or just a muscle pull? Why does he need full compression pants for that? Wouldn't some type of simple brace/sleeve suffice? He has a full body suit of grip surfaces.
I ask b/c I am wondering if he wears a similar "uniform" whenever he trains, even if he isn't hurt. I find it unlikely that that his support devices just happen to be the best possible outfit for no-gi grappling in that style.
I feel that Eddie Bravo and his converts are diluting the message of not depending on the gi by substituting other garments of it.
I do not want no-gi to start meaning any other type of clothes which provide an advantage. Then there will have to be another separate league of events calle "Just Shorts".
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as far as brandon hand his compression pants is he has injuries to both knees at the time of the video, and some at burns. He does from time to time train like that, but mostly in gi pants or shorts.
As far as us Eddie converts, last time i checked the rules for no-gi tournaments it just says no gi tops. You can wear gipants, shorts, ankle sleeves, compressions tights or whatever else you choose to wear. Not all 10th planet students were the compression pants, it is to each his own and what they are comfortable with.
I just find that with the ankle sleeves and calf sleeves i can get better grip for myself, and hey if whom ever i am rolling with wants to grab it and take advantage great, just don't get to close cause i do like to tap people.
I tried this move last night, and it worked a treat.....twice! My coach was like,
"What the F#$@ was that?" LOL
Well I am glad it worked for you and you baffled your coach. next time try and use the peruvian necktie
I love the PNT....i use it all the time, particularly on wrestlers!
By "messed up", do you mean some type of knee/ligament injury, or just a muscle pull? Why does he need full compression pants for that? Wouldn't some type of simple brace/sleeve suffice? He has a full body suit of grip surfaces.I ask b/c I am wondering if he wears a similar "uniform" whenever he trains, even if he isn't hurt. I find it unlikely that that his support devices just happen to be the best possible outfit for no-gi grappling in that style.
I feel that Eddie Bravo and his converts are diluting the message of not depending on the gi by substituting other garments of it.
I do not want no-gi to start meaning any other type of clothes which provide an advantage. Then there will have to be another separate league of events calle "Just Shorts".
Eddie is pretty open about the fact that there is a world of difference between "just shorts" and grappling with gi pants etc. The concept still applies though that the gi offers grips that aren't present in MMA/No Gi grappling. People always say that you should start learning grappling/ground fighting with the gi because it slows down the game forces you to be more technical. That's true in a number of ways, but the biggest reason that the gi forces you to be more technical is because it removes the sweat factor, not just because it offers more grips. Wearing the compression suit basically allows to do the same thing (remove the sweat factor), while still forcing you to use only the grips available in a no gi situation, and concentrating on the intricacies of the 10th Planet system. Otherwise, newer practitioners tend to rely more on being strong, greasy, and frantic than learning the techniques.
Is it exactly the same as grappling in an actual MMA fight? No. Is closer than training in the gi? Yes. Not only that, but in most no gi comps, you can still wear gi pants, etc. Even in MMA, you can at least wear knee and ankle braces/sleeves.
I'm not a black belt, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
By "messed up", do you mean some type of knee/ligament injury, or just a muscle pull? Why does he need full compression pants for that? Wouldn't some type of simple brace/sleeve suffice? He has a full body suit of grip surfaces.I ask b/c I am wondering if he wears a similar "uniform" whenever he trains, even if he isn't hurt. I find it unlikely that that his support devices just happen to be the best possible outfit for no-gi grappling in that style.
I feel that Eddie Bravo and his converts are diluting the message of not depending on the gi by substituting other garments of it.
I do not want no-gi to start meaning any other type of clothes which provide an advantage. Then there will have to be another separate league of events calle "Just Shorts".
It doesn't matter if you showed up at my no-gi class with a gi on ready to train. No one in my class is going to grab your collar, sleeve, belt, etc. Because its no gi, and the techniques comply with that. Under hooks, overhooks, etc., but no clothing grips. We don't grab the clothes in class, because we're a no-gi school. It doesn't matter if I train in a full gi, which I do every now and then just for the extra burn. I never use the gi and neither does my opponent, Anyone else know what I'm talking about.
Know exactly what you are talking about. One thing that Brandon really drills with us is the breaking down of an opponent. With over hook, under, rnc, vice grip, over-under. He also make sure that we always keep our guard tight and always squeezing our legs around our opponent. So we train like this so when we do compete no-gi, or mma we are trained to not allow space.
One thing he has me working on is grip strength, doing my workouts with a towel. chin ups with a towel and cable rows with a towel, this makes my grip that much stronger and tighter, so if i grab you good luck getting free.
We also train to not grab clothing in class as well, one we spend way too much money on our gear for it to get ripped and two if you are always looking for the proper techinque to clinch with your opponent then you will not have to rely on any clothing.
I had someone put me in that same exact move a few months back... it surprised the hell out of me too!
It hurt like a bitch.
He called it a reverse guillotine I do think.
Just the facts maam.
We don't grab the clothes in class, because we're a no-gi school. It doesn't matter if I train in a full gi, which I do every now and then just for the extra burn. I never use the gi and neither does my opponent, Anyone else know what I'm talking about.
yup, i do that sometimes.


天下無難事,只怕有心人
Real quick, I do not think that any of you guys who are using this gear are "cheating". If the rules permit it, wear it if it helps you or deters your opponent; that's just strategy.
What I meant is that it seems to dilute the spirit of no-gi grappling. I remember an EB clip where he mentions that he almost called the state of traditional BJJ pathetic. I figured if he was so vehement of his dislike for the gi, it was odd to wear gi pants. In addition to these, ankle sleeves and the tubi-grip.
The sweat factor is a compelling argument, but I also think that Aoki pants and rash guards give grapplers a grip advantage, but not the handles one might expect form a gi.
You always hear the "gi is more technical" b/c of sweat or whatever, but I have yet to hear someone qualify "technical" is this context.
I feel that if you were to train w/ no aids, your technique would have to evolve so that your moves worked even in the face of a "greasy" opponent.
Grandmaster Red Belt in P(C)JJ
Real quick, I do not think that any of you guys who are using this gear are "cheating". If the rules permit it, wear it if it helps you or deters your opponent; that's just strategy.What I meant is that it seems to dilute the spirit of no-gi grappling. I remember an EB clip where he mentions that he almost called the state of traditional BJJ pathetic. I figured if he was so vehement of his dislike for the gi, it was odd to wear gi pants. In addition to these, ankle sleeves and the tubi-grip.
The sweat factor is a compelling argument, but I also think that Aoki pants and rash guards give grapplers a grip advantage, but not the handles one might expect form a gi.
You always hear the "gi is more technical" b/c of sweat or whatever, but I have yet to hear someone qualify "technical" is this context.
I feel that if you were to train w/ no aids, your technique would have to evolve so that your moves worked even in the face of a "greasy" opponent.
I think EB was referring to the BJJ "establishment" refusing to recognize that you have to train different for no gi. So they totally discounted it and ignored it. As for what we wear and what Brandon wears, maybe it's laundry day. I'll say this man, and I'm not trying to insult you, but I think you might try to over analyze things a tad much.
I do not think that I am the only person who was surprised to see him advocate the use of gi pants or other clothing in his 2nd and 3rd books after he specifically said not to put faith in a piece of clothing in his first book. He did not even mention the correlation. it isn't w/out a sense of irony.
I am not analyzing as much as I am puzzled b/c I so agreed w/ EB early asessment of no-gi, especially when he compared BJJ and no-gi to judo/greco. When I first saw him in gi pants, I really didn't think it was any more than an unfortunate choice of clothing given his message, which I excused b/c I saw his clips against Royler and others wearing at most a t-shirt and fights shorts and WINNING.
I guess I feel he lost some steam when he devoted a section to the specific type of clothing that lends itself to his style in his later books after declaring that the gi was a weakness at first.
Grandmaster Red Belt in P(C)JJ
I like this move!!!
"Eddie is pretty open about the fact that there is a world of difference between "just shorts" and grappling with gi pants etc. The concept still applies though that the gi offers grips that aren't present in MMA/No Gi grappling. People always say that you should start learning grappling/ground fighting with the gi because it slows down the game forces you to be more technical. That's true in a number of ways, but the biggest reason that the gi forces you to be more technical is because it removes the sweat factor, not just because it offers more grips. Wearing the compression suit basically allows to do the same thing (remove the sweat factor), while still forcing you to use only the grips available in a no gi situation, and concentrating on the intricacies of the 10th Planet system. Otherwise, newer practitioners tend to rely more on being strong, greasy, and frantic than learning the techniques"
this is absolutely crazy! training with the gi makes you more technical? why dont wrestling coaches tell their students to put a gi on then???!!! that would never happen! more technical because it takes the sweat factor away? wrong man, it forces you to be tight and have control over your opponents. you just have to control them differently with overhooks and underhooks/head and arm and that isnt gi style and gi rollers lose control so their ego gets in the way when they dont have control and they revert back to "you need to wear a gi." as for wearing the tights...Have you ever worn them? doesnt help when you are sweaty. just like a rashguard. does a rashguard help you submit people? no. the Aoki style ones are thicker and cotton but under armour kind? come on man, get real.
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I was just wearing them. I wear them for several reasons. protection from staph, ringworm, make less leg hair on the mat, no leg hair in your mouth if i am teaching a move that puts my legs in your face, stay warm, knee injuries, slow lactic acid build up.I don't recall why i was wearing them in that particular vid though.
i don not wear pants in competition though, be it tights or gi pants. High level tournies dont allow them and some even make you wear their rashguard and shorts. another reason is that MMA doesnt allow them...or should i say the UFC. the rest of the major MMA orgs let you wear the Aoki style pants. they are the bomb by the way, you should try them.
saying that it isn't "true" no-gi or its a handicap in mma is a joke. same reason people wear knees sleeves and ankle sleeves. notice i said sleeves and not supports, those are for injuries. another reason its a joke is cuz people dont say its not 'true' no gi when some one wears a rashguard. so why complain about the no gi tights? we should all roll around in tighty-whities for that matter then.
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I was just wearing them. I wear them for several reasons. protection from staph, ringworm, make less leg hair on the mat, no leg hair in your mouth if i am teaching a move that puts my legs in your face, stay warm, knee injuries, slow lactic acid build up.I don't recall why i was wearing them in that particular vid though.i don not wear pants in competition though, be it tights or gi pants. High level tournies dont allow them and some even make you wear their rashguard and shorts. another reason is that MMA doesnt allow them...or should i say the UFC. the rest of the major MMA orgs let you wear the Aoki style pants. they are the bomb by the way, you should try them.
saying that it isn't "true" no-gi or its a handicap in mma is a joke. same reason people wear knees sleeves and ankle sleeves. notice i said sleeves and not supports, those are for injuries. another reason its a joke is cuz people dont say its not 'true' no gi when some one wears a rashguard. so why complain about the no gi tights? we should all roll around in tighty-whities for that matter then.

no tighty whiteys for me man. i don't like jiu jitsu that much bro.
Ah the video has been removed. Anyone know where I can go to view this tech?
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Nice, thanks for the vid, Gene Lebell called this finish the king arthur's i believe.