Favorite Attacks From Back Control
Wed, 04/23/2008 - 06:56
I was wondering what your favorite unconventional attacks from back control are with or without the gi.
I like to use the British strangle set up (with one hook in to roll them) and when they are worried about the Gi choke I transition to an arm bar from spider web 8)
Mon, 04/28/2008 - 19:33
#2
rpatrizzi wrote:
I like to use the armbar and when they try to sit back I go right into a triangle.
i use that sometimes too but i usually go for a guillotine or kimora 1st.. then as they sit up i try for an arm bar and if that doesnt work i try to roll into a triangle.
Mon, 04/28/2008 - 19:39
#3
i love to trap one of a the guys arms with a leg. it makes the rnc a hundred times easier. it is also the best way to beat a guy who is bigger/ stronger than you.
Mon, 04/28/2008 - 20:27
#4
WOw those sound like some really awesome lockflows...some should make a vid and post, just quietly 8)
Mon, 04/28/2008 - 21:54
#5
Well, If I can get a tight figure four with my legs, I will often use both palms of my hands to repeatedly box their ears over and over again until they give up or pass out from the pain ;-)
Mon, 04/28/2008 - 23:56
#6
If the RNC isn't happening, I go for the calf-crank/twister back control. I tend to use Bjorn Friedrich's strategies more than Eddie Bravo's.
Check out his stuff here:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPvnxTWbej0[/youtube]
-Marshal
Tue, 04/29/2008 - 04:17
#7
Usually just RNC or armbar -I'm not that advanced- just bread n butter subs with a pretty good transitional game, but after reading this I have a few more options/combos.
Tue, 04/29/2008 - 05:52
#8
Another thing I like to do is if I took their back from turtle, I walk around to a sprawl to keep them in turtle and I use my new fav Gi choke the rolling loop choke :D (I will try to get a vid up as soon as my tatt heals and I can roll again)
Tue, 04/29/2008 - 07:30
#9
I like to fake the RNC and go for an armbar or Kneebar.
Tue, 04/29/2008 - 09:28
#10
I really like looking for the the armbar form the back. Another one of my fav. attacks is kata gatame/side choke from over/under control was using that alot before i got injured, saw it in a UFC fight with Thales Leites and it works really well.
Tue, 04/29/2008 - 10:14
#11
evm87 wrote:
RNC with an arm trapped under one of my hooks. Otherwise, if they stand up on me, i'll fall down and spin to take a heel hook. If I can't get the RNC + arm, i'l fall off their back to one side, grab an arm and spin to an omoplata.It sounds confusing, I know.
yeah it does sound confusing, but thats kinda the point isn't it?
also... i dont have any "unconventional" moves.... just a plain old RNC, or maybe if i can set it up a triangle from the back... :?
"He who conquers others is strong; He who conquers himself is mighty. " - Lao Tzu
Tue, 04/29/2008 - 10:24
#12
rolling armbar
figure-4 choke/armbar
with a gi, I like a lawnmower choke. nothing fancy, but its brutal.
"Don't let up until you hear cartilage snap, or they crap in their pants."
"Kickin' me was right. Checkin' to see if I was okay was wrong.."
Sal Bandini
Tue, 04/29/2008 - 12:21
#13
shogun313 wrote:
jamesb959 wrote:I like to use twister back mount and go for the twister, if that fails go for the kamikaze calf crank and if that fails, fall to an arm in guillotine!Sounds pretty crazy James, do you have any vids on the kamikaze calf crank? I have never even heard of it and it sounds sweet!!
The video above from Bjork is a really good version of what I do. I have taken some of his stuff and a lot of Eddie Bravo's stuff and mixed them together. It works really well!
Tue, 04/29/2008 - 18:34
#14
shogun313 wrote:
Another thing I like to do is if I took their back from turtle, I walk around to a sprawl to keep them in turtle and I use my new fav Gi choke the rolling loop choke :D (I will try to get a vid up as soon as my tatt heals and I can roll again)
Usually I hate gi chokes. It's not that I can't do them...I just don't. I LOVE the rolling loop choke. There's a video of my old instructor pulling it in a competition, I'll post it later when my internet is running faster.
Tue, 04/29/2008 - 20:08
#15
Joe Friday wrote:
Well, If I can get a tight figure four with my legs, I will often use both palms of my hands to repeatedly box their ears over and over again until they give up or pass out from the pain ;-)
You mean youre just like just hittin their ears over and over again w/ palm strikes:shock: ... Ouch!! And ppl still wanted to roll w/ you. Thats brutal.
Tue, 04/29/2008 - 20:54
#16
eagles51493 wrote:
Joe Friday wrote:Well, If I can get a tight figure four with my legs, I will often use both palms of my hands to repeatedly box their ears over and over again until they give up or pass out from the pain ;-)You mean youre just like just hittin their ears over and over again w/ palm strikes:shock: ... Ouch!! And ppl still wanted to roll w/ you. Thats brutal.
Actually I was joking... I have never done that. I might would consider it in an MMA fight though. I have never once been to a pre-fight meeting to where those were brought up as illegal and also have never heard or read about those types of strikes as being illegal.
Wed, 04/30/2008 - 12:02
#17
Joe Friday wrote:
eagles51493 wrote:Joe Friday wrote:Well, If I can get a tight figure four with my legs, I will often use both palms of my hands to repeatedly box their ears over and over again until they give up or pass out from the pain ;-)You mean youre just like just hittin their ears over and over again w/ palm strikes:shock: ... Ouch!! And ppl still wanted to roll w/ you. Thats brutal.
Actually I was joking... I have never done that. I might would consider it in an MMA fight though. I have never once been to a pre-fight meeting to where those were brought up as illegal and also have never heard or read about those types of strikes as being illegal.
o wow im dumb.
well you got me
Wed, 04/30/2008 - 12:13
#18
I like all of these options...Keep em comming!!!!!!!!!
Tue, 05/06/2008 - 19:28
#19
Sliding around to Guillotine off the back works great for me and suprises a lot of people! Pequeno's a master of this!
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