a friend of mine just got a tat kit
a friend of mine just got a tattoo kit gun and everything needed to tat for her bday she is a really good artist i am thinking about letting her do a tat on my upper outter thigh i want to get a blue triangle (bjj) inside a yellow circle (wrestling) inside a red square (boxing/ kick boxing) inside a octagon (mma) to represent all the styles i do
it is all simple lines and a circle so i dont imagine it would b to hard to do even for some one just starting out on a tat gun , plus it will be in a good spot easy to hide and not that big so could cover it if it is that bad
my question is a ) do u think it is a good idea to let a new artist tat you?
b) any tips it would b my first tat as well
any input would be appreciated thanks
Get her to do a tattoo course, I dunno about the US but in the UK you can do a course on tattooing at college, it's not a long course I think only a few days, but it shows you about hygiene when tattooing and basic technique etc. My partners dad has a gun and he did this.
It may just be straight lines and stuff an nothing that seems too difficult but ask any tattooist and straight lines are actually one of the harder things to do, specially if your new to it.
Tattoos are lame, skip the fad.
If she never did one before not even somekinde of practise, than i would say no too.
Due to the fact that it is so simple one wrong move would reck the whole thing.
http://WWW.Karatemma.com
Created by MyFitnessPal.co
Tattoos are lame, skip the fad.
In your opinion of course......
If it's a fad it's lasted a hella long time.
Ötzi the Iceman, dating from the fourth to fifth millennium BC, was found in the Ötz valley in the Alps and had approximately 57 carbon tattoos consisting of simple dots and lines on his lower spine, behind his left knee, and on his right ankle. [19] Other mummies bearing tattoos and dating from the end of the second millennium BC have been discovered, such as the Mummy of Amunet from Ancient Egypt and the mummies at Pazyryk on the Ukok Plateau.[4]
From Wikipedia.org about tattoos.
I say stick around and see her work on other people before you do yours ,
* I have a friend who is an amazing artist & he went to school and did his thing in art . I did not wait to see what he did on other people , I was actualy the first pray he got. He did very well in just lines n a lil color .... here's where it gets funky ... One day being crazy I embarked on a 8 hour session that turned into a mess...
I dont blame him * it was poor choice of tat by me and in-experience by him. Ill post pics when i find em. that was years ago now he is awsome only does portraits and comes out in mag's and makes about 3g's on 2 days . timing is all... hope u have the patience.
*Ps: I dont know what BulletEater is talking about...
BulletEater wrote:
Tattoos are lame, skip the fad.
Dosen't he know that getting " ICE COOL" with skulls all around your bod it seems to be the new thing in MMA ... Lol you should too lol
A good tattoo artist apprentices for about 5 years. Yes, her artistic talent will translate, but it's a completely different medium. If a person has only done pencil drawing, would you expect them to be a good painter?
Not right way. Painting is much different from drawing. It takes different techniques and different strategies. Tattooing is no different.
-Marshal
Run, don't walk...as far away as possible.
No, No, No, don't, I repeat don't do this. No good will come from it.
A good tattoo artist apprentices for about 5 years. Yes, her artistic talent will translate, but it's a completely different medium. If a person has only done pencil drawing, would you expect them to be a good painter?Not right way. Painting is much different from drawing. It takes different techniques and different strategies. Tattooing is no different.
Exactly... +1
BulletEater wrote:Tattoos are lame, skip the fad.In your opinion of course......
If it's a fad it's lasted a hella long time.
Quote:Ötzi the Iceman, dating from the fourth to fifth millennium BC, was found in the Ötz valley in the Alps and had approximately 57 carbon tattoos consisting of simple dots and lines on his lower spine, behind his left knee, and on his right ankle. [19] Other mummies bearing tattoos and dating from the end of the second millennium BC have been discovered, such as the Mummy of Amunet from Ancient Egypt and the mummies at Pazyryk on the Ukok Plateau.[4]
From Wikipedia.org about tattoos.
Argument from irrelevance. You'd have to show me the percentage of people who had tattoos then, and also now. Saying that clothes existed 10,000 ago doesn't mean that clothing fads don't exist; just ask the nerds who come into our bjj school and get their affliction shirts torn off.
Tattooing is a retarded fad, especially considering how gross they'll look on the fattest generation of humans this world has ever seen. What began as radical dope fire&water ying yangs on a persons back will look like pie-sized views of Earth. :D
a friend of mine just got a tattoo kit gun and everything needed to tat for her bday she is a really good artist i am thinking about letting her do a tat on my upper outter thigh i want to get a blue triangle (bjj) inside a yellow circle (wrestling) inside a red square (boxing/ kick boxing) inside a octagon (mma) to represent all the styles i do
it is all simple lines and a circle so i dont imagine it would b to hard to do even for some one just starting out on a tat gun , plus it will be in a good spot easy to hide and not that big so could cover it if it is that badmy question is a ) do u think it is a good idea to let a new artist tat you?
b) any tips it would b my first tat as well
any input would be appreciated thanks
I've got a buddy that has gotten most of his tats for free from newbies. They are all pretty bad. The guys are talented but like people have said, just because you can draw doesn't mean you can do a tat, takes practice.
Tats are a fad? I love it, every post it just keeps getting better. At least every once in a while we get a glimpse of what it's like to post on Sherdoy. lol
Run, don't walk...as far away as possible.
:lol:
天下無難事，只怕有心人
Tattoos are lame, skip the fad.
i agree with you in a sense that its a fade but you can tell the difference from someone who loves ink and some one who wanted to fit in with the 1 Garfield tattoo on the lower back. with that mentality BJJ is a fade, you can tell the difference from someone who just loves to roll and the kid who does it so he can just tell people he does super royce gracie UFC shit.
but back on topic... dont be first, dont be 10th... you dont want to be the guy that she learns from her mistakes.
Argument from irrelevance. You'd have to show me the percentage of people who had tattoos then, and also now. Saying that clothes existed 10,000 ago doesn't mean that clothing fads don't exist; just ask the nerds who come into our bjj school and get their affliction shirts torn off.
Tattooing is a retarded fad, especially considering how gross they'll look on the fattest generation of humans this world has ever seen. What began as radical dope fire&water ying yangs on a persons back will look like pie-sized views of Earth. :D
Clothing is not a fad. Some trends within the cultural norm of wearing clothes may be fads, but clothing itself is not a fad.
There are trends within tattooing to be sure just like that are trends within any type of artwork, but there are certain types of tattoos that have remained consistently popular over a long period of time.
Having a tattoo is quickly becoming the norm. I'm not saying that someone should get a tattoo because they are popular, I just want you to know that they aren't obscure fads (as someone has pointed out, tattoos have been around for a looooong time, all over the world).
Little statistic from a CNN article:
According to a 2006 report in the Journal of the American Academy of Dermatology, 24 percent of Americans ages 18 to 50 have at least one tattoo, and 14 percent have at least one body piercing. Researchers questioned 253 women and 247 men via random telephone survey.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/LIVING/worklife/06/19/too.tattooed.to.work/
And two more things. I am a nerd that does BJJ, and I do not have my clothing ripped off. Also, I have a Jeet Kune Do yin yang proudly tattooed on my back.
-Marshal
Oh, I also wanted to add, don't get tattooed by someone who hasn't first tattooed themselves (at the very least).
-Marshal
BulletEater wrote:
Argument from irrelevance. You'd have to show me the percentage of people who had tattoos then, and also now. Saying that clothes existed 10,000 ago doesn't mean that clothing fads don't exist; just ask the nerds who come into our bjj school and get their affliction shirts torn off.
Tattooing is a retarded fad, especially considering how gross they'll look on the fattest generation of humans this world has ever seen. What began as radical dope fire&water ying yangs on a persons back will look like pie-sized views of Earth. :DClothing is not a fad. Some trends within the cultural norm of wearing clothes may be fads, but clothing itself is not a fad.
There are trends within tattooing to be sure just like that are trends within any type of artwork, but there are certain types of tattoos that have remained consistently popular over a long period of time.
Having a tattoo is quickly becoming the norm. I'm not saying that someone should get a tattoo because they are popular, I just want you to know that they aren't obscure fads (as someone has pointed out, tattoos have been around for a looooong time, all over the world).
Little statistic from a CNN article:
Quote:According to a 2006 report in the Journal of the American Academy of Dermatology, 24 percent of Americans ages 18 to 50 have at least one tattoo, and 14 percent have at least one body piercing. Researchers questioned 253 women and 247 men via random telephone survey.http://www.cnn.com/2008/LIVING/worklife/06/19/too.tattooed.to.work/
And two more things. I am a nerd that does BJJ, and I do not have my clothing ripped off. Also, I have a Jeet Kune Do yin yang proudly tattooed on my back.
Ok, you've misread my post. OBVIOUSLY I meant types of clothing are fads, not the entire realm of covering oneself; silly billy.
The stats you presented are meaningless because you forget to show the numbers for tattoo removal. It's estimated that American will have 100,000 tattoos removed and 17% of people surveyed regret getting one. I'm a statistics/econ/social psych freak and I promise this is a fad, I could spend a few months gathering data and show you the hilarious spike in distribution....I hope we're on the downtrend; soon.
Don't get red or yellow ink if you're on the fence, either, it's the hardest to remove.
@BulletEater--if you would specify as "tribal" then i might agree with you.
but saying tattooing as a whole is a "fad" is just stupid. tatooing has been a rite of passage in the u.s. navy since inception. scratch that: tattooing has been a rite of passage throughout virtually all the cultures of the world (e.g. native american, maori, samoan, et al) since you like to wave around your credentials via the interweb i'll add that i have a degree in anthropology.
--nick
10th dan in parnes jiu-jitsu.
ok i should mention that she is being instructed by a artist of 15 years experience and is also doing a course at tafe i will not be her first victim ill wait n see how her work turns out im not silly but hey if i can get a free tat that is in a spot that doesnt really matter if it not perfect and help out a good friend with some practice at the same time then why not ?
ok, ill play. What is the definition of "A Fad"?
@BulletEater--if you would specify as "tribal" then i might agree with you.but saying tattooing as a whole is a "fad" is just stupid. tatooing has been a rite of passage in the u.s. navy since inception. scratch that: tattooing has been a rite of passage throughout virtually all the cultures of the world (e.g. native american, maori, samoan, et al) since you like to wave around your credentials via the interweb i'll add that i have a degree in anthropology.
ooooooh! served.
ok, ill play. What is the definition of "A Fad"?
A formal definition -- Fad (Noun) a temporary fashion, notion, manner of conduct, etc., esp. one followed enthusiastically by a group.
Websters definition -- a practice or interest followed for a time with exaggerated zeal.
I say gather your data bulleteater. You will OBVIOUSLY show us all how smart you are, as you do with every post.
I guess I didn't realize that "hilarious spike" = Fad. It also looks like based on your own words "I hope we're on the downtrend; soon" we are not yet on a downtrend. If that is the case then this is not a spike.
Definition spike -- a. A sharp rise followed by a sharp decline in a graph or in the tracing of a scientific instrument.
b. A sharp momentary increase in voltage or electric current.
c. A sudden steep increase in prices.
(Of course their are many definitions of spike. this is the relevant use)
I'll bet someone could show a hilarious spike in people who converted to Christianity approximately 2000 years ago... FAD.
I know there is a hilarious spike in people who got telephones about 100 years ago...FAD.
I remember when I knew everything, the good ole days.
I don't mind people who don't like tattoos, like everything they are not to everyones tastes.
I do dislike people who try and preach about not getting them and how stupid they will look when your old etc.
Each to their own, I have them I like them and I will continue to get them. They will look tired and blurred when im an old man, but then so will I, who will want to look at my saggy skin then anyway.
They are not a fad, people have just finally started to change the taboo on tattoos.
Tattoos are lame, skip the fad.
Picking fights on the internet behind the safety of your keyboard is what is truly lame.
And we can only hope that, given enough time for the childish thrill to run it's course, the same will prove to be a fad.
Zenphobia wrote:BulletEater wrote:
It's estimated that American will have 100,000 tattoos removed and 17% of people surveyed regret getting one.And you now have failed to represent the number of people who have tattoo's that will not be getting the removed, and also neglected the 83% of people who are satisfied with their decisions. Everyone has regret, some just come in different form.
Hey guys no worries. If he thinks its a fad time will tell. We may disagree but let it go.
For all we know his mom may have said no when he wanted his first lower back tattoo. It could have been the best butterfly tattoo you would have ever seen but it was not meant to be.
Let it go. Hugs all around...
ok i should mention that she is being instructed by a artist of 15 years experience and is also doing a course at tafe i will not be her first victim ill wait n see how her work turns out im not silly but hey if i can get a free tat that is in a spot that doesnt really matter if it not perfect and help out a good friend with some practice at the same time then why not ?
well if your not the first and you get to see how it turns out, I'd say go for something small and hidden at first and wait and see if the ink holds and the tattoo is well done then if it does go for it :D, (make sure you get her your own set of needles :D) If it doesn't work out u could always cover it with something else or get it removed
Good luck if you go forward with it let us know how it turns out
CombatChaz wrote:ok, ill play. What is the definition of "A Fad"?A formal definition -- Fad (Noun) a temporary fashion, notion, manner of conduct, etc., esp. one followed enthusiastically by a group.
Websters definition -- a practice or interest followed for a time with exaggerated zeal.
I say gather your data bulleteater. You will OBVIOUSLY show us all how smart you are, as you do with every post.
I guess I didn't realize that "hilarious spike" = Fad. It also looks like based on your own words "I hope we're on the downtrend; soon" we are not yet on a downtrend. If that is the case then this is not a spike.
Definition spike -- a. A sharp rise followed by a sharp decline in a graph or in the tracing of a scientific instrument.
b. A sharp momentary increase in voltage or electric current.
c. A sudden steep increase in prices.
(Of course their are many definitions of spike. this is the relevant use)I'll bet someone could show a hilarious spike in people who converted to Christianity approximately 2000 years ago... FAD.
I know there is a hilarious spike in people who got telephones about 100 years ago...FAD.
I remember when I knew everything, the good ole days.
You're getting dumber with every post, poor fella. The Bell Curve insists that a perpetual rise is impossible, I'm sorry that I assumed you were aware that infinity is impossible in this universe. SO. Unless you think that things like gas prices or cost of living or median age can rise indefinitely, you know anything that rises sharply is either a spike or will curve.
How do tattoos, religion, and technology tie together? You're gonna to have to do a LOT of math to get rid of your tens of thousands of third variables.
Chaz....in my previous post I really was asking the question about what does define a fad, I think your point was the best without being antagonistic. There really isn't a set number for a fad or a trend, they're not rigidly defined. Almost all styles come and go, that makes them a fad. Remember slap bracelets? I assume Bruceleroy here has a closet full because he doesn't believe in trends. lol
To the other idiots talking about my mom and saying I'm picking fights online.....awesome? Most people on this forum can fight, except probably you two, so I assure you I don't need to prove anything online. Nice sense of decorum, though.
/flex much online Bullet? Instead of humbly proving a point, which you easily can because your so well educated, you decided to demean, and otherwise show little to no respect for anyone that wishes to contend in the argument. Have you not the intelligence to the better person? Or would you rather just walk away from your computer feeling better about yourself? Honestly, if it's such a fad, it wouldn't be everywhere, and only getting more popular.
I really have a tough time figuring out how tattoo's are a fad, they stand for so many different things, in so many different ways. IMO, the fad is to not get a tattoo, and try to counteract the popularity. So, in a sense, your as much guilty of perpetuating a trend, or fad, as any of us with tattoo's.
And if your so anti trendy and fad, what do you follow, listen to, take advice from. Because none of this is for certain, it will all die out at one time.
cheers
Post new comment
Latest Comments
- 0 Comments 21 min 55 sec ago
- 3 Comments 45 min 31 sec ago
- 4 Comments 1 hour 57 min ago
- 22 Comments 4 hours 42 min ago
- 3 Comments 10 hours 9 min ago
- 0 Comments 10 hours 52 min ago
- 4 Comments 14 hours 49 min ago
- 0 Comments 17 hours 3 min ago
- 6 Comments 1 day 2 hours ago
- 10 Comments 1 day 2 hours ago
- 3 Comments 1 day 2 hours ago
- 13 Comments 1 day 2 hours ago
- 0 Comments 1 day 7 hours ago
- 0 Comments 1 day 12 hours ago
- 7 Comments 1 day 15 hours ago
- 5 Comments 1 day 17 hours ago
- 5 Comments 2 days 16 hours ago
- 2 Comments 3 days 13 hours ago
- 4 Comments 4 days 12 hours ago
- 4 Comments 4 days 12 hours ago
Images
Sponsors
I would say no. Evan an amazing artist has alot to learn about putting ink into skin let alone the risk of blood born pathogens and skin infections (eg: MRSA)
If she has not trained the very best you can hope for is a bad tattoo that does not hold its ink and not surgery.
http://www.facebook.com/#!/william.regester