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Alright, I didn't really mean that. I'm sure a Subject line like that will draw attention, and i'm sorry in advance for misguiding all of you.

For 2+ years, i've been on this site again and again. I trust the population here for advice on techinques, news, and insightful articles. So i'm asking for advice on an unorthodox topic.

First, i'd like you to look at my profile on here. It will explain in the About Me section why i'm asking for advice and assistance. Here it is: http://www.lockflow.com/users/jaydeehero

Basically, what I'm asking you all to comment on is how one would go about achieving my aspired goals, assuming I do not have a gym or regular training area. What I have available is a small D3 college gym, and I plan to go there daily between my day and night job until I have enough saved to go back to Renzo Gracie PA.

To be a Professional Mixed Martial Artist, that is my life goal. The complexity of the combination of advancing arts, daily dilligence, and a sharp mind to learn an arsenal of techniques and being able to defend against every one of them...it's simply beautiful.

So, if you have any advice at all, wether it be a word, link, video, whatever you can say, it is greatly appreciated.

Take care, Lockflow family. God speed, and party on!

"Go where the challenge is greatest." - Ghorbash gro-Dushnikh

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awesome post, lol! you need training partners and a a coach!

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Whoa! Hey CombatChaz!

Do you mean until I can get back to real training? What I can do is talk to a few of the summer students here who also have trained a bit, to drill techniques. But, a coach might not be available.

Keep them coming, people!

"Go where the challenge is greatest." - Ghorbash gro-Dushnikh

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When in doubt the left hook comes out.

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Dude. You want to qualify for the olympics in boxing? I think that one alone should keep your plate full for awhile. You might want to figure out in which order you want to achieve your goals and then focus on the first one for now.

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I recommend you read the book the "Talent Code".

It doesn't address your sport specifically.. but does answer the question. 

Good luck,

Freddys

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Qualifying for the olympics sounds hard, but it will be possible when I can save up enough to make that time. I've got Harry Yorgey to work with, so after the necessary competitions and a year or two of amateur fights, it will happen. Twice a day, six days per week, I'd call that kind of opportunity a sin to waste. I can definitely see accomplishing all of these in 3-5 years.

"Go where the challenge is greatest." - Ghorbash gro-Dushnikh

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Hahahaha!!

I remember the first time I saw this video, I wondered if people thought that's all it took. No, I feel like some kind of proficiency, proven proficiency in all areas of MMA, will make me a strong candidate as a professional.

"Go where the challenge is greatest." - Ghorbash gro-Dushnikh

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Okay, I'll do an update to prove i'm trying my best to do all this properly.

Today, while going between work schedulings, my cousin visited me. We have a pool, so an idea was to relax for a bit. But one thing about me, i've noticed that I turn most leisure situations into workout situations.

I was shadowboxing in 5 feet deep water. Hooks, straight punches, uppercuts, and knees. Also, some laps underwater because I'm not very good at surface swimming. I've seen the professionals training at pools...I guess I have to learn how to swim too!

God speed, and party on!

"Go where the challenge is greatest." - Ghorbash gro-Dushnikh

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WOW GUYS Stare   WHY ARE YOU SUCH A-HOLE'S TO THIS GUY WHEN HE ASKED YOU HOW TO BE THE BEST IN THE WORLD! SORRY JORDAN I DONT KNOW WHY THEY DID THAT TO YOU.

Here is what you need to do to be the best,read the following then get back to me.

http://www.lockflow.com/forum/topic/parnes-competition-jiu-jitsu

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So...I looked through that thread, browsed around and it goes on for about a year and a few months.

Let me say that it's a great idea, to come up with your own style. Sure, you're way of doing things, and if you can prove it through competition, awesome!

First off, having a sure-fire way to become the best is impossible! Everyone would be the best! I just titled it to draw attention, so my real questions could be answered.

Second, no offense...but i'd rather become fluent in styles and practices I know are proven. I don't just believe Boxing is efficient, or that Dutch Kickboxing is one of the most well-rounded stand-up disciplines, or that Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu is the most battle tested and proven self-defense martial art. I love them, I'd eat, sleep, breathe them if I could. Your idea looks cool, but that's not something I can necessarily devote my limited time into. There are guys out there who've studied some martial art ever since they were young, or went to a high school/college with a strong wrestling pedigree. I was not fortunate to have those opportunites, my experience is getting beat up and fighting back ever since I was in the 5th grade. Man, realizing that the moves I relied on to keep me alive were actual techniques taught in schools was the greatest feeling i've ever felt about myself. That's why it's so easy for me to learn things. That's why I know I can become a professional.

Best in the world? Not realistic, but I'll do my best to make me the best Jordan I can be.

"Go where the challenge is greatest." - Ghorbash gro-Dushnikh

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If you are serious there are a few basic steps to goal setting.

 

1 - write down your goals

2 -  write down an outline of what you need to accomplish to get to where you want to be

 

So, if your goal is to be a pro mma fighter it could be as simple as 2 steps...

Step 1 -  contact a promotion, tell them you are interested and get a fight.

Step 2 - show up

 

 

or as complex as you want it to be...

 How much striking do you want to train before you get in the cage?

 How much ground do you want to train, is there a certain belt level you want to get to before you fight?

Do you want to compete in any ammy fights 1st?   Or grappling comps?

 

literally list everything you need to accomplish and start checking them off.   It is much easier if you just list it out.   Everything looks simple when you put it on paper.  The hard part is actually doing the work.

 

 

 

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bruceleeroy,

Writing down goals are good! That's how I was able to figure what exactly I wanted to do, but considering life's variables, I didn't put an exact time to accomplish them. An estimate would be 3-5 years. Considering possible injuries, costs of living, etc. All that is thrown into the estimate.

I could probably answer most of those questions on the spot, but i'll write them up later tonight and go over them as I chomp down on Independence Day burgers hahaha!

I'll post results either tonight, or tomorrow.

Freddys,

I'll check out that book, see if it's at a the college library or Amazon. Thanks!

I'm really happy that I've gotten so many replies! Thank you all for your advice!

"Go where the challenge is greatest." - Ghorbash gro-Dushnikh

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bruceleeroy,

I just realized that I wrote out most of these on my profile. I thought you would have seen it!

By the time I get the accolades I want, with the experience I wouldn't need very many amateur MMA fights. I said I'd get to the olympic level in boxing, I'd need a lot of amateur boxing experience. Same with the Muay Thai/Kickboxing, lots of fights. My school has connections to promotions like Inkosi in Allentown, and 'The Good Fight' as well as other boxing events. For grappling, I'd sit fine with a purple belt at least before I go professional, but a brown wouldn't hurt. It would take a lot of training and grappling tournaments to win absolute divisions as well as my own weight at the time, which the east coast is full of.

Whew, at least I know i'm on a good mindset! Anything missing?

"Go where the challenge is greatest." - Ghorbash gro-Dushnikh

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Sounds like the key to your goals is really to get more money to pay for training and everything else. Looks like you've found a good school and all you need is the money to go there so $ should be your number 1 right now, you can just train and learn on your own and spar with whoever until then. I don't think your pro debut is something to rush.

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And btw Lockflow is a great free resource for the learning new things outside of class aspect, I am much more knowledgeable about leg locks since I've found this website and have learned some new chokes and things that I play with regularly now.

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miklo,

You've got it! I don't think anyone really talks about the actual costs of doing this. At sometime, someone has to foot the ridiculous bill. I wouldn't be surprised if some people took out loans to help pay for training.

An idea I just thought of is to see if I can get on a conversational level with someone who's gone through stuff like me and succeeded. I mean, not like an olympic boxer per se, but someone who has at least attempted something close to this, and how he/she went about it.

Anyone know anybody like that?

"Go where the challenge is greatest." - Ghorbash gro-Dushnikh

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I didn't really have time to read through the whole thread, but I did see that your out in philly and you trained at amerikick in lansdale!  That's pretty cool, I'm originally from that area too.  My father, I believe, actually used to workout with some of the head guys over there probably 20+ years ago.  Small world, huh?  I was actually up in Philly I think 2 years ago for the amerikick internationals because they added a big submission wrestling portion to the tournament.  Fun stuff!

And for your goals, try and start small, and slowly work your way up the ladder.  Being able to hold a title or compete in the olympics takes many years of dedication and hard training, and most times that still isn't enough.  Think about it this way... Randy Couture one of probably the best fighters of his time didn't make it to the olympics for wrestling after trying multiple times.  I'm not saying to give up on your goal, but try and set some easier ones that are more reachable to accomplish first, keep the main long term goal as your dream.

Good luck!

 

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To be perfectly blunt, if you want to be the best you have to beat the best, and if you want to beat the best you have to train harder than the rest.

It sounds like your work ethic is where it needs to be. I feel you on the training costs part- I basically have a job to pay for my training lol. But between a job, school and everything else thats going on, its sometimes hard to get in a good roll or workout. This is where you have to think outside the box.

 

Does your college have a wrestling team? If it does, you should try to train with them as much as possible. Explain to the coach your situation and ask if you can attend the practices. This will give you a good base to work from. If not, try and find an intramural wrestling team in the area. They usually only have you pay for mat time, something like 50 bucks for the month. It will keep you in shape and help you develop some skills that will help you in MMA.

Grappling wise, my coach doesn't allow anyone in our gym to fight in MMA unless you have at least a blue belt under him (His name is Roger Woo) or our 'home base' school (Brazilian Top Team Boston). Rationale being that you can be a phenomenal grappler, but the minute someone smashes you in the face, you basically drop a belt rank lol. Having a solid blue belt mean you have solid foundations, which means in a panic situation your muscle memory will (hopefully) take over and you'll be able to defend youself.

Striking wise, find a striking style you are comfortable with. I saw your video when you were doing Kenpo Karate. It's not a bad style, but if it's not something you're comfortable with, then switch to something else. You say that you're a 'natural boxer' so practice your boxing techniques wherever and whenever you can. Look online for some home-made boxing stands made for cheap and try to keep one handy to train with.

Lastly, you need to work out every free moment you have. I'm not sure what kind of hourly jobs you ahve, but any time you have a break or downtime, do something to strengthen your core, cardio or explosivness. Go for a 15 minute jog during your break, or do some pushups/situps/pullups for 30 seconds straight then rest for 30 seconds.

 

Hope this hekps, and good luck. Big smile

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eagles51493,

Whoa, small world indeed! It was more likely with Grandmaster Tosten and Sensei Sautner, who actually is the head of the Lansdale branch along with Sensei Shaffer Jr!

Hmm, that is a strong point. I know I don't have long, even though my timeline seems a long time, the best have been working their whole lives. I look at being able to accomplish those goals as credit to my abilities in the cage life, but yes...it all might not happen. I've gotta look for that level though, but the little things like increasing my cardio or footwork, hopefully that will come with the end goals. Grappling wise, I could say to work on passing and defending submissions. Those goals i'd have to create once I step back into RGPA, so I can work on them right away. Thank you so much for your insight, and I'll do my best to keep it small and sharp!

thatguy0311,

That's a great idea!! I'll see if the high schools near me will have that available! Jeez, i'd probably even try and contact the wrestling coach, if they have one, and ask him to help me over the summer if there isn't any training right now. Arcadia doesn't have one, no. They don't even have a football team! I am not a blue belt, yet. I knew I was very close to understanding the positions and how to work well in them, but that was right before I had to stop. But you're right! Small steps, and the belts will come!

I've been on the fence with Kenpo Karate, honestly. It's more quick strikes without instilling the devastation of setting up strikes for a good bomb. The competition rules don't allow knees or leg kicks, so either i'd be very good at head and body strikes without focusing on the lower half...but then I wouldn't be used to taking them, and experiencing their full potential. Lucky for me, RGPA has a strong Muay Thai coach, so that's all coming very soon. Maybe i'll finish what I started, and at least get a brown belt in Kenpo. My girlfriend jokes that she'd get me a heavy bag for my birthday, so we'll see! But if you ever see me, I'm that guy randomly shadowboxing in the supermarket hahaha

Hmm, my job hours have fluctuated, nothing is stable just yet. But, I will remember this and rest assured, I'll be doing pushups/pullups/situps/crunches/shadowboxing on my breaks.

Thank you so much, brother!

 

I have to say, I am so fortunate and blessed to have a community like you guys to give me pointers and correct any mistakes in planning I have. Thank you all, so much. Another idea, for whomever is okay with it, to give all of your usernames credit on some kind of poster in my competitons as well as the Lockflow.com logo. Because it's hard to find knowledgable people to talk to, around here you'll run into *no offense* TapouT shirt wearing tough guys who can't sprawl for the life of themselves. So, again, thank you.

God speed, and party on!

"Go where the challenge is greatest." - Ghorbash gro-Dushnikh

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thatguy0311,

I was able to follow up on two things you mentioned in your last post.

One, being that I should work out every moment I get. Including at work, or breaks at work. My night job, which is to restock the retail store overnight, allows me to do so! Today was the only day shift, but you should've seen me...pushups, situps, and shadowboxing at one minute intervals. It was possible because we didn't have much to stock at that moment, and also on my break I continued the trend. Very sore this evening, but I plan to nap then head to the local gym nearby.

Two, I contacted Cheltenham High School's wrestling coach, and he seems pretty willing to help me out! He hasn't replied to the second email, but I feel if I present a flexible schedule maybe he can draw up a nice workout sheet plus have me run techniques and drills with him.

Pretty excited to see how this all turns out in a month!! Thank you for your wisdom!

"Go where the challenge is greatest." - Ghorbash gro-Dushnikh

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Hello everyone,

Posting another update! I haven't been able to set up training with the wrestling coach, hopefully we can start some time this week. I have his email, and coincidentally he lives in my apartment complex, but he doesn't get back to me too often which could mean that he's just plain busy. Again, hoping for this week to come full circle.

At work, I do get to mix shadowboxing and pushups when possible. It's pretty boring and repetitive work, so working out a bit helps pass the time. Coincidentally, a video posted a few weeks ago about shadowboxing (Cuban Boxing secrets, etc. 3-part series) has helped my shadowboxing to the point where my imaginary opponent has me quessing constantly.

When I'm not working, I'm trying to maintain a better diet while going to the gym every day and swimming after every workout. My focus this month is to get a stronger back so my rooted strength is increased, stronger shoulders so my punches are much more solid, and stronger forearms so my grips in the clinch and on the ground are tighter. With all the other miscellaneous exercises I do that I remember from RGPA, I feel more prepared to get back to training.

My hope is to start in September.

Take care, everyone, and thanks again.

"Go where the challenge is greatest." - Ghorbash gro-Dushnikh

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If you really plan on being the best, you will need this:

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Let me apologize in advance if this post comes off as abrasive, but I think the first thing you need to do is reevaluate and redefine your goals. You want to be a pro MMA fighter? The first thing you need to do is decide what a pro MMA fighter is. Getting a pro fight is easy- maintaining a career as a pro MMA fighter isn't. The other thing you need to realize is that boxing is a very specialized sport, and you're getting a late start. There are kids who started training at 10 or 11 years old who have the same goal that you do of making it to the Olympics, and to be honest at this point they're probably a lot better than you. If you're very talented and hard working, you may be able to make up enough ground to be competitive at that level if you find a top level gym and focus on nothing but boxing, but it's almost impossible that you'll be able to come close if you're dividing your time between training all the disciplines necessary to become a decent MMA fighter. 

If you want a pro MMA career, your best bet is spending at least two or so years getting a good grasp of each aspect of the MMA game individually before trying to combine them. Regardless of which path you decide to take, make sure you also get with a top level school as soon as possible. It would probably be better to just stop training now, focus on work and save up money quickly, and then relocate to the best gym you can possibly find. If you want to stay on the east coast look into Matt Serra's gym or Team Lloyd Irvin. 

I'm not a black belt, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

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Neither of you have followed the first posts' instructions, or read through the forum enough, else you'd know two things: I'm not trying to be the best, I said that to draw attention to the forum, and that I am focusing on a lot more than the olympics or one style to prove my abilities as a professional fighter.

Many people have posted here, knowing how serious I am. Other's have posted similar usless nonsense, and I guess they get their kicks speaking with whatever experience they'd like.

Unorthodox,

Refer to the first post, my profile, and everything before your post.

"Go where the challenge is greatest." - Ghorbash gro-Dushnikh

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Hello everyone,

It's official, I've saved enough money to go back to training! Yes!! The first monday of September marks my return, with doing morning and evening sessions followed by working the night shift 4 days out of the week. Transportation there involves buses and a train, where I plan to nap on the journey.

This month, my focus is my cardio and explosiveness. I've been gradually working my way up to running on the treadmill for 2 miles at a steep incline with shorter strides to force blood flow. I've also incoporated sprinting/jogging mixes in 5 minute intervals with a single minute rest for a total of 30 minutes. Any weighted training will focus on my chest, abs, upper and lower back, and legs.

Can you recommend some cardio/CNS/Plyometric workouts I can try so I can be in top fighting shape come September?

Thanks!

"Go where the challenge is greatest." - Ghorbash gro-Dushnikh

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CombatChaz,

Those look vicious!! I'll try the CSL workout today, and the Box It Up tomorrow!

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Now, I am in the phase of transition to a finalized diet, including staples of brown rice, black beans, whole weat flour, chicken, beef, various berries, vegetables, sweet potatoes, bananas, cans of white chicken and whole tuna, almonds, eggs, oatmeal, milk...

Also, i've been brimming through supplement sites to see what seems to be the most pure setups of pre-workout, during, post-workout, multivitamin, creatine, etc. or most efficient. So far, something from IsoPure is leading, with hopefully receiving a Prosource guide that'll tell me more.

Sadly, my idea of training with a wrestling coach over the summer failed. But it brewed something else: He was also the high school's football coach, and come wrestling season, he'll have me practicing along with the high-schoolers (I'm sure i'll have to appeal to the school board and find some way to compensate him and them). For me, i've recently absorbed the notion full in effect that wrestling has to be a weapon for a mixed martial artist.

The work ethic and grinding mentality i'm expecting can assist me...the physical flexibilty and strength improvements...the obvious assistance to my Submission Grappling...and so on. I'm pretty excited.

"Go where the challenge is greatest." - Ghorbash gro-Dushnikh

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I've never been big on pre-workout super energy supplements, tried no-xplode and its just not for me. They never felt healthy to me and really brought out the rage in my workouts. I love vitamins though, usually take a good multi, all letter vitamins, glucosamine, fish oil, royal jelly, and whatever else i have lying around. Also for protein ive started drinking carnivor and I really like it, its beef protein isolate rather than whey and has plenty of creatine and amino acids. And yes I believe wrestling is number one most important for MMA, sparring someone who is just a way better wrestler than you is brutal. I wish I had wrestled in HS but the coach hated me and I was already in nogi BJJ so I stupidly said forget it...

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Really didn't read anything in this forum, so I'm sorry if it's repeated adivce. You just have to want it. It sounds cliche and super easy, but it is not. Refuse to break ,refuse every inch every person tries to take from you. The most important part, refuse to stop working. If this is your goal there is no man, woman... fuckin wookie that can stop you. If you're outmatched, out think. Make any position and every second hell for whoevers dumb enough to lock themselves in a cage with you. You will be the best. You will work the hardest. You will not lose.

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