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Mon, 06/06/2011 - 23:29
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Today, I knocked out my training partner with a head kick. I threw a right cross, which I wanted my partner to slip so I could land my right head kick. This worked flawlessly, my partner slipped my cross leaning right into my kick, I connected with my shin and he collapsed.

I wasn't trying to hit hard, what am thinking is that any kick that can reach head height is a potential knockout, if landed square and not defended.

I really didn't want to hurt my partner, I just wanted to try one of my favorite techniques, right hand then right kick or left punch left head kick, whatever.

I guess knocking out one training partner in 4 years of striking training isn't that bad, I just hope this kid is alright.

I know when I go agro, like this uchi mata that I threw a month ago was too hard. This kick didn't feel agro, my mood didn't feel agro, I think I just landed a kick on the button.

So my question? Is any kick that can reach head height potentially a knockout? What can I do to safely practice head kicking my partner.

I would be particularly interested how TKD'ers handle this. It seems like this would happen alot in TKD.

We were wearing shin pads with no headgear, this was also a problem.

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Mon, 06/06/2011 - 23:56
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You have to measure your kicks better. Always consider the fact that you may just connect and pull your kick. I've been in similar situations and ended up just grazing people with my footpad. It means a lot more to me to have control and awareness than to accidentally knock a guy out/down. Wink

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Tue, 06/07/2011 - 00:17
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Speed without power, that sounds familiar, I say it all the time.

You're absolutely right, I didn't think what if this connects. Most of the time my kicks just graze or are blocked well, so I don't have alot of experience actually landing my heads kicks.

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Mon, 06/13/2011 - 20:25
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It takes more skill to pull your kicks then to land them. In the karate sparing that I have done it is like tag all speed no power I think most of TKD is the same way. You cant go 100% in the gym and not get hurt.


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Sun, 07/03/2011 - 16:27
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pulln kiccz shows great strength in technique ... which i agree havn targezt iz great for sparring!!! not juz throwing kiccz knees n punches !! im 6'1 n i love 2 take it to the top ! but sometimes i have to pull away cuz i dont want 2 hurt my partners! ...

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Mon, 07/04/2011 - 12:42
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^ I need google translate to read that. Lol

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Wed, 07/06/2011 - 09:51
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With many TKD and Karate style kicks it is easier to pull them or go all speed, less power. Regarding the mechanics of the kick, extending the knee / swinging the lower leg out and then back. With that style kick you can (with self control) kick really fast and tag the surface of your target without destroying it.

With a Thai style kick with the shin you are using your whole leg like a bat and going through your target. If you snap out your lower leg and back then the technique is not the same. If you practice the technique "wrong" it won't be easy to do when you really need it in a fight, ie may pull it by habit.

I guess what I'm saying is it will be harder to control this technique in sparring, and that's why a lot of club Muay Thai sparring is done 1/4 speed or whatever, to keep the proper form and technique without knocking each other out.

+100 for headgear in full contact sparring Smile

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Wed, 07/06/2011 - 10:20
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Its combat sports, this stuff happens so dont beat yourself up. Ive witnessed numerous body kicks turn into head kick KO's in the gym, all b/c a guy dropped his guard and ducked into a kick that was meant for the body. We pull head shots but we usually throw to the body hard, for conditioning purposes, so when one connects to the dome its not good. Plus the leg is much heavier and will do much more damage with less force. All we can do it try to be safe but accidents happen.

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