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thoughts or opinions?

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Looks legit. Krav Maga proven in battle. Its not a MMA style of Self defense.

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I've seen similar. I guess I'd like to see him move his head to his left as his hand controls the knife hand, create more of an angle. Also he really didn't talk about any distraction before the move. You hear Bas talk about that a lot.

But I'd say the move is legit, just be quick!

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another, not krav but looks cool anyway i think.

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everything looked pretty good to me, I agree with Bruce though. Also, and maybe its just me, but in the very first movement, it looks like the way its performed, he's only using his arm vs. the opponents arm to move the knife. If the opponent is stronger, it may be hard to execute that. Thoughts?

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Looks okay to me. he's hitting from the outside in with plenty of followup. Maybe some more body movement and less flurry attack. But it seems okay to me.


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@madness cool stuff. some of the things he did looked like they required more strength and every here and there it got a bit flashy (the spinning elbow, lol?) but at the same time, lots of good stuff in there.

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i enjoy learning as much as i can about empty and weapon defense. but at some point i feel you have to make a decision just how important it is to escalate a situation. knives and guns are so unpredictable its hard to train disarms and controls. tony blauer had a video showing the after math of a knife encounter and it was UGLY. meat hanging out and gashes to the bone. i live in area where damn near everyone carries a knife and will get jon wayne on you in a second. there have been several bars and clubs here that have been shut down by the city simply b/c of the violence and volume of police/EMT calls. i have never stepped foot inside a club and never intend too. i still like knowing i have an inkling of response to such situations.

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On the Krav Maga tech-

We had a technique in the Marines that was against a similar reason-either someone holding a knife to your throat or stabbing at your face or upper chest. The technique was a redirection similar to what the instructor did, but then you slid in for a standing arm-triangle type clich. You would then thrust your hips into him and pull, effectively hip-tossing him while still having the arm-triangle and land with all you weight on his back (he should be landing belly first). From there if you're fancy you can slap on a neck crank and snap his neck, or if you're pressed for time you can stand up and start stomping his head.

Another, simplier technique, when you grab to redirect, wrap his arm and put all your weight on his elbow. Even if you don't have the arm fully trapped, it will buy you some time to work the knife free from the attackers hand.

My opinion on the video- if I were just wanting to get away, I would do what the instructor did-a few jabs/straights to the face will disorient him at the least, allowing you time to disengage and escape and evade. If i needed to take him down/kill him, punching him like that would be ill-advised because you aren't controlling his weapon or his body, which means he can pull away and re-engage, this time more pissed off because you hit him.

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knives are scary.

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maddness: agreed, except even without trying to escalate situation, stuff can still happen.

chaz: I agree, but this kid didnt think so...

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I agree with Chaz, knives are scary. I also agree with ThatGuy0311, in that, while the technique in the video looks legit, the person demonstrating it does not maintain good control of the weapon. Ideally, you would trap his arm against his body or against your own. As long as it is out there flying around, you stand a good chance of being cut.

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The initial part looks dangerous. He is pushing the knife back out against the aggressor. If a stronger guy held the knife and he felt some resistance, he'd just push back and cut the dudes throat.

I agree with BL. He should guide the knife 45 degrees to his right shoulder while slipping his body out at 45 degrees to the left. The rest looks similar to Dog Brothers vids I've watched, so its all good.

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^ yeah thats what I was sayin as well.

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