question on kicking
Thu, 08/07/2008 - 19:44
ive been working on my kicking for a while now and i just cant seem to get it down. i get to far off balance and i almost fall backwards when i kick. i cant seem to get the pop and my kicks are a little slow. i have a pretty large amount of power but its just not very fast. does anybody know what my problem might be or any tips or tricks i could use to improve my kicks. any help would be greatly appreciated
Franklin Roosevelt once said "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself". Well guess what, i am fear.
Thu, 08/07/2008 - 19:59
#2
one thing is work on kicking THROUGH the target rather than at it, you see most mma guys spin around, and thats cuz they commit, but when you hold back anything it becomes slow and awkward. Another thing would be to stay on the bawls of your front foot rather than flat footed and even do a small hopstep into it ... Those both helped me A LOT... See what they do for you n lemme know if i helped!
Thu, 08/07/2008 - 21:57
#3
break your kicks down into parts. practice them step by step slowly. then add speed and power. make sure your in a good stance. as wrestler said you may be a little off in judging your distance too.
Thu, 08/07/2008 - 22:02
#4
wrestler5544 wrote:
one thing is work on kicking THROUGH the target rather than at it, you see most mma guys spin around, and thats cuz they commit, but when you hold back anything it becomes slow and awkward. Another thing would be to stay on the bawls of your front foot rather than flat footed and even do a small hopstep into it ... Those both helped me A LOT... See what they do for you n lemme know if i helped!
Exactly. Stop thinking about power, use your leg like a whip, stay on the balls of your feet, use the movement of the whole body just like in golf. Don't look at it like baseball and go balls out, not only will that slow you down, but the recovery time from the kick being thrown is much slower.
Thu, 08/07/2008 - 22:10
#5
make sure your turning that plant foot too
Thu, 08/07/2008 - 22:20
#6
... skipping... build your calves and leg speed...
... team turbojambo...
Fri, 08/08/2008 - 05:27
#7
Find someone who knows about the style of kicking you are trying, so they can watch you kick, and critique your form. We can speculate and give you advice all day, but cant really tell you what you are doing improperly without seeing you kick.
Your best bet is to find someone who can teach you in person, or at least watch some youtube videos and try to mimic their form.
-Adam Mays "Courage is endurance for one moment more" "If size mattered, the elephant would be the king of the jungle." 
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Fri, 08/08/2008 - 08:56
#8
tat2edup wrote:
Find someone who knows about the style of kicking you are trying, so they can watch you kick, and critique your form. We can speculate and give you advice all day, but cant really tell you what you are doing improperly without seeing you kick.
Your best bet is to find someone who can teach you in person, or at least watch some youtube videos and try to mimic their form.
or maybe just ask his instructor...
Fri, 08/08/2008 - 09:16
#9
im going to try and get a video on here so yall can see it. i dont think im to close because i have to stretch and i still sometimes hit with my foot. i do kick through the bag i turn my foot and stay on the balls of my feet i think i just lean backwards for some reason. ive been working on it for over a year and i still have problems
Franklin Roosevelt once said "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself". Well guess what, i am fear.
Fri, 08/08/2008 - 09:30
#10
If you were asking me this question when I was teaching TKD back in the day I would give you two pieces of advice.
First, don't kick higher then you're ready for. The higher you kick the more demands it requires from your body (flexibility, balance, coordination, etc). Start perfecting your kick from the waist down. As you build up strength, balance and coordination slowly start moving your kick up.
Second, when you kick try not to move from the waist up. If you can keep your body movement from the waist up to a minimum when you kick you will avoid "telegraphing" your kick to your opponent. I could tell when my opponent was going to do a high kick because he would throw his head back. Or if he rotated his back shoulder to the front the kick was coming off the back leg, etc. The good kickers didn't show any signs of the kick until it was to late to react to it.
I hope this helps.
Fri, 08/08/2008 - 09:48
#11
http://www.lockflow.com/viewtopic.php?t=13403
Here is another topic on here a few months back. Some good advice and comments.
Check it out
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Fri, 08/08/2008 - 10:54
#12
I can break my kicking skills down to 3 things. Flexibility: You can't kick well if you feel like you're going to tear something :). Ankle weights and slow kicks: it's like swinging 2 bats before swinging one. and finally. When you kick let the energy go to your planted leg. Everyone wants to put the energy into their kicking leg. You'll lose your balance.. ;) Let me know how it goes.. !! :)
Fri, 08/08/2008 - 11:15
#13
tjakai wrote:
http://www.lockflow.com/viewtopic.php?t=13403Here is another topic on here a few months back. Some good advice and comments.
Check it out
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I was tryin to find that but couldn't. thanks.
the easiest thing to do though is ask your instructor after or before class about it.
Fri, 08/08/2008 - 11:31
#14
TheFear wrote:
ive been working on my kicking for a while now and i just cant seem to get it down. i get to far off balance and i almost fall backwards when i kick. i cant seem to get the pop and my kicks are a little slow. i have a pretty large amount of power but its just not very fast. does anybody know what my problem might be or any tips or tricks i could use to improve my kicks. any help would be greatly appreciated
what kicking method do u use i happen to use the karate style (maybe the TKD method too) with a chambering kick not the Muay Thai method and its faster... instead of the bat its like a whip or nunchuck
also spread ur legs slightly open and find ur sweet spot
Fri, 08/08/2008 - 12:19
#15
wrestler5544 wrote:
one thing is work on kicking THROUGH the target rather than at it, you see most mma guys spin around, and thats cuz they commit, but when you hold back anything it becomes slow and awkward. Another thing would be to stay on the bawls of your front foot rather than flat footed and even do a small hopstep into it ... Those both helped me A LOT... See what they do for you n lemme know if i helped!
It's a very bad habbit to spin all the way through a target when you miss. Even if you commit if you're good you can still "pull back" your kick. Take it for what it's worth, just advice I have received from a few lumpini champions and witnessing a very good and young thaiboxer(now) in Vegas get knocked out with a spinning back kick to the back of the head because he did a "360"(this was around 4-5 years ago). The guy is a stellar striker now and was even than..anyhow, some people spin all the way around and others don't..I myself, if I spin all the way around it's to follow up with a spinning back/side/hook/crescent kick immediately after to the wherever(thigh, body, neck).
Back on topic..work on your flexibility more..it will help with you not being as "jerky" and off balance and just keep practicing. I don't know if you're training under anyone, but training under a good instructor helps a loooooooot so they can coach you along the way. Learning this stuff without a good and experienced coach will take you a lot longer.
Fri, 08/08/2008 - 13:52
#16
powerof0ne wrote:
wrestler5544 wrote:one thing is work on kicking THROUGH the target rather than at it, you see most mma guys spin around, and thats cuz they commit, but when you hold back anything it becomes slow and awkward. Another thing would be to stay on the bawls of your front foot rather than flat footed and even do a small hopstep into it ... Those both helped me A LOT... See what they do for you n lemme know if i helped!
It's a very bad habbit to spin all the way through a target when you miss.
+1
Fri, 08/08/2008 - 15:34
#17
powerof0ne wrote:
wrestler5544 wrote:one thing is work on kicking THROUGH the target rather than at it, you see most mma guys spin around, and thats cuz they commit, but when you hold back anything it becomes slow and awkward. Another thing would be to stay on the bawls of your front foot rather than flat footed and even do a small hopstep into it ... Those both helped me A LOT... See what they do for you n lemme know if i helped!
It's a very bad habbit to spin all the way through a target when you miss. Even if you commit if you're good you can still "pull back" your kick. Take it for what it's worth, just advice I have received from a few lumpini champions and witnessing a very good and young thaiboxer(now) in Vegas get knocked out with a spinning back kick to the back of the head because he did a "360"(this was around 4-5 years ago). The guy is a stellar striker now and was even than..anyhow, some people spin all the way around and others don't..I myself, if I spin all the way around it's to follow up with a spinning back/side/hook/crescent kick immediately after to the wherever(thigh, body, neck).
Back on topic..work on your flexibility more..it will help with you not being as "jerky" and off balance and just keep practicing. I don't know if you're training under anyone, but training under a good instructor helps a loooooooot so they can coach you along the way. Learning this stuff without a good and experienced coach will take you a lot longer.
i dont train anywhere yet. i'll start when i graduate. im quite flexible already i cant quite get the splits but i can put my legs behind my head my dads a brown belt in tae quon do maybe i should ask him lol idk i'll try all the advice ive got so far and see where it gets me. thanks
Franklin Roosevelt once said "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself". Well guess what, i am fear.
Fri, 08/08/2008 - 15:56
#18
niteshroud wrote:
TheFear wrote:ive been working on my kicking for a while now and i just cant seem to get it down. i get to far off balance and i almost fall backwards when i kick. i cant seem to get the pop and my kicks are a little slow. i have a pretty large amount of power but its just not very fast. does anybody know what my problem might be or any tips or tricks i could use to improve my kicks. any help would be greatly appreciatedwhat kicking method do u use i happen to use the karate style (maybe the TKD method too) with a chambering kick not the Muay Thai method and its faster... instead of the bat its like a whip or nunchuck
also spread ur legs slightly open and find ur sweet spot
Im surprised nobody else jumped on that...
Fri, 08/08/2008 - 15:59
#19
kevint09 wrote:
niteshroud wrote:TheFear wrote:ive been working on my kicking for a while now and i just cant seem to get it down. i get to far off balance and i almost fall backwards when i kick. i cant seem to get the pop and my kicks are a little slow. i have a pretty large amount of power but its just not very fast. does anybody know what my problem might be or any tips or tricks i could use to improve my kicks. any help would be greatly appreciatedwhat kicking method do u use i happen to use the karate style (maybe the TKD method too) with a chambering kick not the Muay Thai method and its faster... instead of the bat its like a whip or nunchuck
also spread ur legs slightly open and find ur sweet spot
Im surprised nobody else jumped on that...
i was about to
Fri, 08/08/2008 - 20:39
#20
Cobra wrote:
kevint09 wrote:niteshroud wrote:TheFear wrote:ive been working on my kicking for a while now and i just cant seem to get it down. i get to far off balance and i almost fall backwards when i kick. i cant seem to get the pop and my kicks are a little slow. i have a pretty large amount of power but its just not very fast. does anybody know what my problem might be or any tips or tricks i could use to improve my kicks. any help would be greatly appreciatedwhat kicking method do u use i happen to use the karate style (maybe the TKD method too) with a chambering kick not the Muay Thai method and its faster... instead of the bat its like a whip or nunchuck
also spread ur legs slightly open and find ur sweet spot
Im surprised nobody else jumped on that...
i was about to
I was going to but kept thinking of immature comments to say to it...I'm almost 30, too...jesus.
Fri, 08/08/2008 - 23:37
#21
I wouldn't suggest ankle weights for kicking. Not at all.
Fri, 08/08/2008 - 23:43
#22
Ankle weights for kicking are good only if you use them to work on technique. It's never a good idea to kick all out with them. When I did TKD I would put on ankle weights but I'd just work on the technique and the weights would be there to make it less boring.
I would focus less on kicking hard, and more on kicking right. Get the technique down, and then work on throwing power into it later. Maybe ask CombatChaz or Bawajiwe or Tjakai to post their kicking techniques. Their kicks looks scary even when they don't put any power into them.
Sat, 08/09/2008 - 01:31
#23
this video is pretty well broken down...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YpCcJ2SnDs
Personally I think you just need to seek out the right instructor
Sat, 08/09/2008 - 08:01
#24
CassieTrost wrote:
Ankle weights for kicking are good only if you use them to work on technique. It's never a good idea to kick all out with them. When I did TKD I would put on ankle weights but I'd just work on the technique and the weights would be there to make it less boring.I would focus less on kicking hard, and more on kicking right. Get the technique down, and then work on throwing power into it later. Maybe ask CombatChaz or Bawajiwe or Tjakai to post their kicking techniques. Their kicks looks scary even when they don't put any power into them.
You've seen tjakai kick without power? :)
Sat, 08/09/2008 - 10:55
#25
powerof0ne wrote:
Cobra wrote:kevint09 wrote:niteshroud wrote:TheFear wrote:ive been working on my kicking for a while now and i just cant seem to get it down. i get to far off balance and i almost fall backwards when i kick. i cant seem to get the pop and my kicks are a little slow. i have a pretty large amount of power but its just not very fast. does anybody know what my problem might be or any tips or tricks i could use to improve my kicks. any help would be greatly appreciatedwhat kicking method do u use i happen to use the karate style (maybe the TKD method too) with a chambering kick not the Muay Thai method and its faster... instead of the bat its like a whip or nunchuck
also spread ur legs slightly open and find ur sweet spot
Im surprised nobody else jumped on that...
i was about to
I was going to but kept thinking of immature comments to say to it...I'm almost 30, too...jesus.
thanx guys and also TS u should not always use the textbook method of either kicking form unless it works for u i personally (in limited exp mind u) that the "karate" chamber method gives me a fast and more powerful kick Bcuz i understnad y it works... that being said i find that u kno y a techinique works helps u on how to do the techinique in this case a kick
idk if any one asked what kick it was so i assumed roundhouse to the head or a spinning kick... not a front kick or side kick
Sat, 08/09/2008 - 12:25
#26
Chambering is a good tool but once you have your technique down after a few years+ you don't have to chamber every kick. You can also fool your opponent by chambering like you're going to do a front snap kick/mae geri and go for a side kick/yuko geri..or for a mawashi geri/roundhouse and so on. Chambering can telegraph your intent or you can use it to set up for a different kick. Common sense dictates telegraphing is bad, write that down.
Sat, 08/09/2008 - 12:31
#27
powerof0ne wrote:
CassieTrost wrote:Ankle weights for kicking are good only if you use them to work on technique. It's never a good idea to kick all out with them. When I did TKD I would put on ankle weights but I'd just work on the technique and the weights would be there to make it less boring.I would focus less on kicking hard, and more on kicking right. Get the technique down, and then work on throwing power into it later. Maybe ask CombatChaz or Bawajiwe or Tjakai to post their kicking techniques. Their kicks looks scary even when they don't put any power into them.
You've seen tjakai kick without power? :)
Are you saying I don't have any control???
Wait. What were we talking about? Kicking or drinking?
Sat, 08/09/2008 - 13:22
#28
powerof0ne wrote:
Chambering is a good tool but once you have your technique down after a few years+ you don't have to chamber every kick. You can also fool your opponent by chambering like you're going to do a front snap kick/mae geri and go for a side kick/yuko geri..or for a mawashi geri/roundhouse and so on. Chambering can telegraph your intent or you can use it to set up for a different kick. Common sense dictates telegraphing is bad, write that down.
after lots of practice chambering doesnt telegraph bcuz it is too fast faster than a muay thai kick imho and chambering doesnt mean u have to full chamber every time not trying to be a dbag btw :oops:
Thu, 08/28/2008 - 01:21
#29
eagles51493 wrote:
tat2edup wrote:Find someone who knows about the style of kicking you are trying, so they can watch you kick, and critique your form. We can speculate and give you advice all day, but cant really tell you what you are doing improperly without seeing you kick.
Your best bet is to find someone who can teach you in person, or at least watch some youtube videos and try to mimic their form.or maybe just ask his instructor...
He cant very well "ask his instructor" if he doesnt have one. Thats why I said find someone to learn from first, if not then youtube it or learn the best way you can.
-Adam Mays "Courage is endurance for one moment more" "If size mattered, the elephant would be the king of the jungle." FREESTYLE AMERICAN SHOOT TEAM Thanks to eagles for the sig!
Thu, 08/28/2008 - 04:24
#30
niteshroud wrote:
powerof0ne wrote:Chambering is a good tool but once you have your technique down after a few years+ you don't have to chamber every kick. You can also fool your opponent by chambering like you're going to do a front snap kick/mae geri and go for a side kick/yuko geri..or for a mawashi geri/roundhouse and so on. Chambering can telegraph your intent or you can use it to set up for a different kick. Common sense dictates telegraphing is bad, write that down.after lots of practice chambering doesnt telegraph bcuz it is too fast faster than a muay thai kick imho and chambering doesnt mean u have to full chamber every time not trying to be a dbag btw :oops:
Umm..what planet are you doing martial arts on? Chambering does too telegraph. It's a common "trick" used in knockdown karate(kyokushin, enshin, etc.) to chamber for something else and throw a different kick to fool your opponent. Do you think I make this stuff up? I take these tips from guys like Yamaki, Filho, Master Toddy, Pettas, and so on...all great kickers.
If you ever train in Muay Thai or something similar you work on not telegraphing your intent or hiding it with other techniques.
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Im not much of a striker, and my kicks are pretty slow too. But I would guess that practice would help. Maybe you are too close to your target, and to make up for the lack-of-distance you lean back...try adjusting your positioning, maybe even your stance a bit.
Face your fear, close the distance.
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