Slams in grappling comps?

THere are different types of tournaments, and different rulesets for different types. It is the responsibility of the competitor to know these rulesets AND to agree to them before competing. If you don't agree, don't compete. Personally, I don't like rulesets that allow me to get punched in the face... therefore, I don't compete in MMA.

As to slams specifically, I **PERSONALLY** don't do them for a number of reasons. First, I don't think it is very classy. Secondly, when I roll I want to be able to control my movements, and a slam is pretty uncontrolled. Third, I consider it a desperation move rather than a skillful technique; if I win, I want it to be on my technical merit. And finally (and my main reason), is because if I put my foot where I can lift a guy triangling me, I expose the leg hook. If he gets my leg, I'm screwed. I would prefer a more technical, and imo higher percentage, defense.

That said, in tournaments I roll with the expectation that my opponent is trying to hurt me. My first focus is to my own safety. If I neglect to look to my own safety first, I deserve the repercussions... especially if the rules clearly open the door for certain violent defenses.

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i couldnt stop laughing when i first saw this and this time it was just as funny

The bottom line here is that the slam was perfectly LEGAL. Weather or not you view it as technical, it was a legal technique and he used it to his advantage.
I dont agree with footstomps in MMA, I personally think its cheap, b/c the bones in the feet are so small and easy to break, possibly causing long term damage, however if I were to get foot stomped, I would be perfectly fine with it, b/c I knew before the fight that it was a legal strike.
If its legal Im gonna use it, and I expect my opponent to do the same.

Like it or not, slamming is a part of grappling. I dont think it is fair for a guy to be able to butt scoot all day, but Im not crying about it.

YES !!!! slams are king...... Reality is hell on the street in the cage or on the mat if it works use it didnt that fool know the counter to being picked up and slammed. I see alot of people on here crying about a slam but get real its a part of fighting and wrestling !!!!! If you cant take the heat get your arse off the mat!!!!!

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I like leglocks, I hate slams. I would not put myself in the position to get slammed. If I felt I was open to get slammed I would let go.

the sambo rule sounds legit (raise em up but don't slam them down). It shows good control and impressive strength. No one here can't say they have broken guard or a hold on simple brute strength.

Granted it may or may not be fair; but the facts are nothing is fair.

Waaaaaaaaaaaay back in the day "fair" refered to the color of a person's skin (thats not racial; just a fact) as in "the fair haired lass" or wotnot.

In this case, it was a matter of "justice" because the rules allowed the slam.... a very cruel justice, but justice nonetheless.

Anyway; the rule could easily be applied as an escape (the sambo rule), and it could be applied as points or as an advantage... to the "slammer".

In that case then the person being slammed could still compete; and learn how not to get slammed... hook the leg I think once the guy stacks; right?

The slam happend, it was legal, what is there to debate??? If you are afraid of slams, dont compete where they are legal, or learn to defend them, its that simple. Dont understand why this thread has carried on so far???
I agree that there are dangers, but the guy knew that there was a possiblility that he could get some frequent flier miles when he signed up. You cant blame someone for using every weapon available to them.
To some its a cheap, meathead move. To others its a powerful, shocking weapon. So we can all agree to disagree.

Somebody slams me in a grappling tournament, there probably gonna get KTFO.

Even if the slam was legal? You gonna knock them out for choking or armbarring you to?

Meathead.

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i have this feeling someone is about to get slammed :lol:

slams shouldnt be allowed in grappling tournaments because it is a GRAPPLING tournament. im not even going to use the argument that slams require no skill to do.

slamming is a STRIKE. STRIKES are not allowed in GRAPPLING tournaments.

the only other takedowns/throws that is close to a slam is something like a standard hip toss but that can be done without SLAMMING the opponent

please dont bring up something like 'slams are allowed on the street' etc etc etc. its not a street fighting tournament. its a GRAPPLING tournament.

if you want something more realistic, we have MMA for that

if you allow slams you might as well allow kicks, knees, elbow,s punches, headbutts etc etc etc

^Judo rules
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judo

you essentially learn to throw your opponent to disable him (knock him out)
also if its such a meathead move then how come everyone can do it, if you know how to use your muscles in your legs and back to pick up your opponent and slam them then is it a meathead move because you needed a technique to do so

high school wrestling involves lots of slams and its refereed to as grappling

oh and as for a hip toss, its not the only thing that slams, a soldi double leg, you can lift your opponents legs up to your head, and drop him on his upper back/neck (Couture vs Gonzaga, Couture vs Liddell)
or a suplex from behind can cause serious damage (Fedor vs Randleman)

there are so many examples of throws that drop you on your head other then just a hip toss

granted its grappling, but some tournies allow it
personally, if its gonna allow me to i would, your opponent should learn the technique to stop it