Why do so many resent wrestlers.

i really don't understand either, people get pissed at wrestlers for dominating but not the guy on the bottom for not being able to escape. if it works go with it, my grappling game got wayyy better when i started rolling with wrestlers than bjj alone, mainly from getting better at putting all my weight on someone and being able to ride someone.

You're arguing a few different points, you need to pick one or just keep reassuring yourself that your point is correct.

1--wrestlers get a hard time from other grapplers
2--the intensity of wrestlers is good/bad
3--wrestlers who fight mma aren't boring
4--grapplers don't need to finish fights

I've grappled with national caliber wrestlers, and I don't get mad at them when they dismantle me. Most of the time they're only capable of holding me down, and when they start to work for position I can start to work my game. Watching wrestlers fight boring matches that I pay for is something totally different. The intensity of wrestling is annoying for jiu jitsu because there is a spoken rule that you're not trying to smash the other guy. Go crazy in competition, bjj is not taught that way. As I think about it, wrestling isn't taught that way, either. You drill nonstop and wrestle-off sporadically....maybe your ego is pushing you to go really hard, and it's not the bjj guys being overly sensitive? If you were constantly trying to smash the guys you with whom you were learning to wrestle you'd be "that guy," which you are when you bring that same method to a bjj school.

You need to understand this simple point: if a bjj guy walked onto a wrestling team and kept negating a pinfall, would people respect that or talk about his bjj base?

Um...are you f%&(*@ retarded? This is lockflow, not some random site. Everybody knows everybody, therefore they don't act like TOTAL pricks except in our religious debates.

Four things.

1--You're an obvious moron.

2--I said high caliber national champions and AA wrestlers (Elmhurst College has many of them) dismantle me. I love the technique involved, and I love to learn. If any of them had your childish attitude they wouldn't be on any team for very long.

3--I don't try to take down college wrestlers, nor did I ever say or even assert that. I will work on my feet until they are able to put me down, and I have substantial takedown defense. My closest friends from EC are the wrestling coaches, so we don't try to be bad asses when training.

4-- You're an obvious moron. Wrong site for that.

@ Fantastic. I seriously think the only difference between U.S. fighters and Japanese/Korean etc......I guess UFC&Strikforce compared to Dream,Pride&K1.....is bushido.

The idea that winning is not an issue, losing at some point in inevitable, and that your fight is all that matters....that makes Pride what it was. That's why I'm so upset having Edgar point-fighting his way to a belt....he'd literally have been red carded out of the fight in Japan. I don't care at all about styles, companies or people....if the fighter lays it on the line for the fans, that is all that matters.

Bushido, man. Japan is fly.

P.S. Sudo, Gomi, Sakuraba and Barnett.... ( fighters who made me a fan! I love the attitude they bring to a fight! I miss young Saku and healthy Genki.

I know you. You're that mildly challenged guy who tries to change an argument by asserting things which were never said; then keeps on them to try not to look even dumber. Since I never said I whoop state or national champions, or Mike Tyson, there is no video. The guys with whom I wrestle are my closest friends; I would never have the idea of hurting, humiliating or otherwise bringing your laughable attitude to any time we train. We also have never taped ourselves. Maybe your attitude is the reason you think everybody has a bias against wrestlers? Again, I never siad I whoop anybody......restated for the slightly stupid, of course.

Work on your attitude, spelling, attempts at humor and general argument style.

Ha Ha for me its cause they alway Kick my A$$~! LOL if it works just keep doing it! Not my fav style but I respect it they get the job done but arnt to entertainig!! It is what it is!!
Im def going to make my son wrestle!! I wish I would have! So now I just have to keep punching , kicking, and work my subs!!!

Dude, you are getting really annoying. People are allowed to have opinions. I think we all know wrestlers can dominate and control on the ground, and that wrestlers are 'dominating' MMA right now. But at the same time wrestlers can be VERY boring and wrestling is not the be all end all of grappling. And btw I was a wrestler.

My buddy Tony that wrestled at Elmhurst said that he had gained a bunch of weight after his final year (which for a wrestler is probably 20lbs) and I said I had also put on about 15 pounds of laziness. He goes, "We probably look the same now, except your tiny neck." It was classic. I never realized anybody noticed my neck, before.