Your thoughts on what this picture is saying...
Tue, 06/05/2012 - 15:50
Wed, 06/06/2012 - 06:19
#2
If it was still purely a martial art, then I'm sure there wouldnt as many rules.
Need rules to stop/prevent people from breaking things and severely hurting people by ignorance or accident.
Wed, 06/06/2012 - 06:41
#3
There is a huge difference between Martail Arts and Combat Sports. The Greeks even established very strict differences between Pankration (combat sport) and Pammechoen (martial art)
Wed, 06/06/2012 - 09:42
#4
I think it's saying people are training BJJ for self-defense and then crying about those of us who do it for sport. There is a difference between judo and jujitsu. There's not an equally identifiable split between BJJ and.. BJJ?
It's also saying that the creator doesn't know standard nomenclature to use the phrase "combat sport" and wouldn't consider any of the other martial arts that have tournament versions different from their self-defense applications really martial arts.
Fri, 06/08/2012 - 10:29
#5
To me, this picture is a statement from the Gracie family. For the same reasons that Rorion Gracie (one the original founders of the UFC, and oldest son of Helio Gracie) is no longer affiliated with the UFC. Rorion once stated in an interview, that the best fighter in the UFC, is not neccisarily the best fighter in the world. He is an athlete that learned to adapt to a set of rules. (I cannot remember his exact words, but it was somthing close to this.)
His original focus was to showcase BJJ to the United States, in a no rule, no time limit contest. Because of the evolution in the sport (I am sure there are more reasons), he has pulled his association away.
Just my thoughts...
Fri, 06/08/2012 - 12:05
#6
Novice QuestionComment: The wrist is off limits????
I couldn't get an arm bar the other day in class so I went with a bent wrist. Never been taught any wrist techniques in a grappling class but used what I know from the jiujitsu aspects of Kempo as well as pain compliance taught in LE combatives.
No one said anything when I tapped the guy.
Heels too? I have been tapped that way several times by my Judo instructor.
Fri, 06/08/2012 - 19:29
#7
Just rereading the NAGA Gi rules for the novice division and the information on the above information is correct, but not correct for the advanced divisions. I was disappointed when I was no wristlocks until blue belt. Thats a go to for me!
Sun, 06/10/2012 - 15:18
#8
wrist locks are sometimes practiced, but technically illegal. I used one in BJJ and tapped a kid out with it, and he had unexplained wrist pain for months and was out of BJJ. I felt bad about that.
Sun, 06/10/2012 - 19:37
#9
In regards to this image, after reading the NAGA rules everything on the list or most everything is banned for novice gi, but by blackbelt MOST everything but eyes is free game. Shoot, in no gi I think eyes are the only things off limits. I was thinking about it this evening and the evolution in rules and experience in training is not much difrence than other sports. In my area american football starts in kindergarten with no contact aka flag football. In elementary grades, kids who are too large and could possibly hurt someone are raised to play against older kids who are of similiar size, kids who are too small have a sticker on thier helmets that they can not be tackled (they can be pulled down, but not hit full speed). This limits injury, I think that is similiar to grappling, techniques that are more likely to cause long term injury should probably not be attempted by beginners.
On the other hand, in you are training for self defense training to play nice is crap. To save me life I am going to punch you in the throat, brachial plexus origin, etc. on the ground I am not against rolling but I will "show you some love" as we call in LE training. types of things not legal in sport.
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