Kris Iatskevich Takedown to Short Arm Scissor
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I was lucky one day to have my coach Eddy bring in Yvon Robert Jr (that's him at the beginning of the clip executing the technique) to show us is famous rolling short arm scissor. Actually the move was made famous by his Father Yvon Sr.
Yvon Sr was a close friend, manager and training partner to my coach Eddy.
If some of you are into lineage, Yvon Sr was trained by Emil Maupas a French Greco champion who turned his attention to Catch and honed his skills with the likes of Martin ''Farmer'' Burns amongst others.
In this segment you'll see a takedown starting with a chin strap and underhook, followed by a head scissor then followed up by a short arm scissor. These techniques aren't as popular as they use to, but give 'em a try, they're loads of fun and open up many doors while rolling. Our boys use them with great success in tournaments and such.
Hope you enjoy!
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Old School is best school.
Catch wrestling is so different from BJJ or even wrestling. I feel like I'd have to learn so many new things to pull off a move like this.
ونحن جميعا الكتب من الدم ، وعندما أردنا فتح نحن الحمراء.
Technically. The one thing that is different with CACC and, say,BJJ is the initial focus.
When you look at the basic BJJ holds,although it far exceeds my condensed list, you'll find much focus on straight armbars,rear naked and triangle chokes,
Whereas,in our basic syllabus,you,ll find much emphasis on neck cranks (face locks etc) ,Double wrist locks (kimura) and toe holds,we also play with compression locks alot.
But after the initial stage is passed, both these systems go back and forth with all the techniques listed above (including all those I haven't listed)
So,the main difference is in the approach,those underlying principles that make CACC what it is.Then you have the rule set which influences not only what techniques you'll use but also how you use them (When you add pinning to the equation it changes your bottom game dramatically)
80% of all our boys at the club come from different background (Judo,Sambo but mostly BJJ) and I do admit,there is somewhat of a transitional phase,but once they get used to the ruleset and different mentality,the rest all boils down to technique,and they soon realize that there is nothing keeping them from utilizing their bread and butter holds.
All this to say that, you probably wouldn't have a hard time picking up CACC.
Kris Iatskevich www.ISWA.ca
I hit the short arm scissors a LOT! .. I usually score this off of "failed armbars".. I'll purposefully botch an arm bar and let the guy "s" grip to block it and then slap it on.. the rolling arm scissor is simply another variant.
Another major thing to take into account w/ the difference between cacc and bjj would be that the rule set is way different.. lots of neck cranks.. lots of wrist/toehold/small joint stuff to that just dosen't fly in the bjj comps.. plus, b/c there are pins as well as subs.. you can't lay back in the closed guard for too long.. and most cacc comps are best 2 out of 3.
I really like mixing up cacc and bjj along with a little jkd, etc.
Kevin, it would be awesome if you added an entry of your "failed armbar" to short arm scissor technique. I can somewhat picture the flow in my head but I'm sure I'm missing the one small detail that makes it all work.
If not a video then maybe you can explain where your legs are when the "failed" armbar happens. Thanks in advance...
Sure, let's say you're in your normal "going for the armbar" position.. both legs across your opponent.. one across his chest, the other across his face/head.. you're going for the armbar and he "s grips" or you allow him to "s grip".. either way, he's attempting to block/stop your armbar attempt.. instead of puttin your foot through his arms and trying to break the grip.. let him have it.. now you still got his arm secured with yours and his arm nearest you is elbow up, pointing towards the ceiling.. simply figure four your legs over and around his arm and you now have him trapped in the short arms scissor.
If that don't get it.. I'll try and get my son and I to do a short vid of this by the coming weekend. Hope that helps.
also,continuing on Kevin' explanation,if your attacking his right arm and your right arm is in then shoot your right leg over.If,again you're attacking his right arm but have your left arm in,then shoot your left leg over.Flexible guys can go either way,but if your like me and flexibility ain't your forte,then same arm/same leg is the ticket.
Kris Iatskevich www.ISWA.ca
Ok, I think I got it. If I understood it correctly the leg that's over the head/face (which is on the same side as the arm I'm using to hook his arm) is the one that will rest on his forearm and the leg over the body will come over my ankle to close the triangle/figure 4. Thanks, I will try to Wednesday when I make it to the gym. =)
Sounds like ya got it!
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