'X' Arm breaker

By: CombatChaz on Wednesday, June 15, 2005

All of us submission wrestlers have been in a position where we go for an arm bar from the mount postion, only to have our opponent grab their own hand to prevent the extension. In Mixed Martial Arts we would just hit the opponent in the face. Here is another answer..

Step 1

As Kim goes for June's right arm, June grabs her hands together to prevent the extension. Kim reaches her right arm through June's bent right and grabs her own left wrist. With her left hand Kim grabs Junes right wrist.

Step 2

Kim pulls upward on June's arm and leans tot he left. This creats a space between June's arm and her own chest.

Step 3

Kim slides her right foot through the opening she created by leaning earlier.

Step 4

Kim inserts her left foot through June's arm and over Kim's own right foot.

Step 5

Kim extends her legs forward as she leans back and pulls on June's arm.

Step 6

When muscle fatique and leverage kick in, June has no choice but to leg go and get caught in the arm bar

Comments

joshua baria

I love that move! Did Chris Leben originate that move?

Keres

Ok, I don't want say that Kim's job on that move wasn't great... In fact the move is a really bad idea...
I mean what's the point of the fighter who grab is own wrist except defend himself ?
When you grab your arm, it's to prevent it from being break by an armbar.
Have you ever heard that it's really bad to cross your legs during juji gatame (straight armbar).
That's because your oponent will just roll on the side, crouch, and pull his arm out... There are tons of way to get someone in an armbar, I would not choose that one...

CombatChaz

Keres, Thanks for your comment, I like to have comments on techniques for discussion. Which way would June roll to get out? If she rolls to the left she hyper-extends her own right arm farther. and she will also have a difficult time turning to the right because her arm is trapped in-between Kim's feet.,... please respond as I would love to learn your excape!

Keres

Ok Combachaz, so here's a couple of stuff I would like to add.
There's a mistake in this armbar, and I'll explain it in a minute, but first here's how to get out :
First keep spreading your arms, the way your hand touch your own chest (so your opponent won't be able to attack them with wristlock or other techniques...)
Than bridge (without much power, the main goal is not to eject someone...), stay in the position where your bottom don't touch the floor anymore, and slide your right leg underthe left one.
You should end with your stomach on the ground, the top of your body twisting in your opponent legs.
Than just crouch, the way you face him.
There simply pull your arm out (there you can use your strengh and quickness), securing your opponent legs with the other one (would be sad to finish the fight losing against another arm bar).

Second point : What the main problem with that techniques...

I imagine that people using that techniques, have probably seen a couple of judo fight and think that it's a good techniques... That's right... But not that way.
I mean you don't have much strengh using your leg like that... I mean look at picture 5... And imagine yourself in a fight against someone, at less as strong as you...
When I train or teach I always asume that my opponent is at least stronger than I am... It would be stupid to teach a technique, assuming your stronger, and what if... You got me right...
So using your legs like that won't be much effective.
A good stuff to do is to establish a good position, than simply reach your opponent's left triceps (assuming we're in the same position as kim) with both of your hand... and pull it
If he lets is arm go, you would be able to attack both of is arm with differents armlock, if not... use the same position as kim but cross your legs under his left arm and hook strongly... It will be much more difficul for him to roll, or pull his arm and if he tries, you would easily attack him with another armbar or switch to a guard position.

I think I'll send pictures in a couple of weeks...

J. Rockwell

Keres, I both agree and disagree with you. The way the attacker is positioned in the first picture, there is no reason for her to try this type of grip break. There are plenty of easier, more practical ones to attempt when her legs are positioned over her opponent this way.

The grip break itself, however, is effective. I use it whenever I attack with a spinning armlock from sidebody, but my top foot gets trapped underneath his armpit, instead of simply being across his neck.

I haven't posted pics on this site yet, but I will give it a go to see if I can show you what I mean.

Keres

I see what you mean, and the kind of situation you're using it.
However, I won't choose that attack, because of all the thing I've ever said.

There are still a lot of techniques to use, for example, take the step 3 pictures...
Here's something that happens, when you use a feint, or miss your kick... I mean in grappling, when you use your right leg to pull your opponent arm, just pushing it with one leg, your leg is straight, powerfull, and the whole motion and movement is fast...

If you miss, you gona end up in the same position as in step 3... Than there's a lot of things to do depending on your opponent's reaction, and if he tries to get up, you can easily take him in a triangle position...

But anyway, it would be a pleasure to see your pictures

J. Rockwell

I did a test run and shot a quick pic series over at www.mmalibrary.com, you can view them there if you have a membership. If not, I will try to get some pics with a real live partner up on this site by next week.

Anonymous

"Have you ever heard that it's really bad to cross your legs during juji gatame (straight armbar)."
Good point if only the arm being attacked is between your legs. If you get both arms in than crossing your feet under the far shoulder will trap the upper torso on the "mat" and defend against alot of the basic escapes for the armbar.

Keres

That's right Sergio !

That's a technique I've learned in judo a long time ago now, and that's the lonly moment you can cross your legs, when you get both arms and keep your feet under your opponent opposite shoulder.
Here in step 4, we can see that it is not the case.

Rockwell I don't get a membership but thanks, I'll wait till youd send us pictures.

mikesr

I was just wondering, has anyone tried this in actually competition. Seems there is a lot of negativity towards the technique if no one has tried it. Just asking. Have a great day.

Miker Sr

J. Rockwell

Competition, no, the situation for it hasn't arisen. Live rolling, yes, many times.

BJJHunter

I've not tried this in competition, but in live rolling I've tried it twice. It took a few seconds of struggling, but it worked both times.

disabledjiujitsus...

as long you grab the dam thumb of your opponent and piont it up they cant roll elbow out

ArenaBred

I just kick out the far arm with my hip side foot and crank the heck out of it.

There is a time for finesse, but this close to a submission is not that time.

Sergio, a strong grappler can get a pretty decent little achilles lock from that position off of the crossed ankles, making it a who taps first situation.

"Sometimes killing a fly with a sledge hammer is entirely appropriate.
It doesn't make the fly any more dead, but the rest of the flies sure sit up and take notice."

CombatChaz

Havn't tried in a fight or competition, but I have used it in the gym with good success! love the discussion - it's what Lockflow was built for!!!

MarineGroundFighter

what about eliminating step three all together and using only the right leg to break the grip that way you would not be giving your opponent the opurtunity to hit you with an achilles lock on that left ankle